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chrisb89 Posted - 07/30/2007 : 21:52:49
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070727&content_id=2113151&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

PHOENIX -- Randy Johnson will have surgery to repair a herniated disk in his back next Friday and will miss the rest of the 2007 season, but plans on returning to the mound in time for Spring Training.

Johnson had a similar surgery performed last October and said at that time he was told there was a 5 percent chance that he could re-herniate the disk. That's what happened, as an MRI taken in June showed the reoccurrence...

..."I can deal with the pain, but the symptoms aren't allowing me to pitch," said Johnson, who lost strength in his legs as his outing against the Dodgers wore on....

....This will be the third time Johnson has undergone surgery on his back and with his legacy and first-ballot Hall of Fame status assured, he was asked why he would want to put himself through another grueling round of rehab. Retirement, though, was never something he considered.
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stanfr Posted - 08/24/2007 : 02:09:23
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Geez, Stan. You surprise me. Let me guess. When you were a lawyer, were you a corporate one.


Actually, i was a public defender. I learned a lot about human psychology from the experience, so it wasn't all bad

The conspiracy theories that show up against the many purported cancer cures really make me wonder how people can be so naive. Yeah, these people are supressing the truth to make more money for the corporations while their family members die of cancer; makes sense to me! (insert sarcastic emoticon here)

From what ive read, Burzinski has been pretty uncooperative in working with researchers who want to put his methods to the test. Not surprising, since he has made millions of dollars (40 million as of 1996) milking desperate individuals out of their $. It would be bad for business if it were definitively shown to be useless. Call me crazy, but i'd be just a little skeptical about a 'cure' originally derived from urine. Unless the person had been drinking Guinness before urinating--then it might work
Sky Posted - 08/23/2007 : 21:56:40
Tennis player Tim Henman retiring, largely due to back problems. A "nice guy" who struck me as something of a choker in pressure situations, Henman strikes me as a good TMS candidate!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/tennis/6954442.stm
h2oskier25 Posted - 08/23/2007 : 09:47:41
Oh, Well, If JAMA says antineoplastin are ineffective, then they must be. It's not like the Journal of the American Medical Association has an agenda or anything . . . [insert sarcastic emoticon here]

Geez, Stan. You surprise me. Let me guess. When you were a lawyer, were you a corporate one.

Beth
stanfr Posted - 08/23/2007 : 02:35:37
Beth, i have to respond to that since i became very well-versed in alternative and conventional cancer treatment when my mother had cancer. I don't know a huge amount about Burzynski, but i do know that JAMA among other sources have demonstrated that "antineoplastins" aren't effective cancer treatments. Of course he has stories about recovered patients: EVERY cancer treatment out there does. The real issue is how they recovered (assuming they did) and unlike TMS, cancer treatments can be tested in (properly conducted) clinical trials. I wouldn't expect him to publish stories
about patients who died despite his treatment. Or the parents of deceased patients who have sued him.
h2oskier25 Posted - 08/21/2007 : 08:56:30
Wow, Dan. You speak from experience and have a lot of good insight on this.
I would suspect MediCosa Nostra plays a part in removing posts about TMS from these kinds of sites. They are often sponsored by the "foundation for Fibromyalgia" or whatever, who are often sponsored by PharmaCosa Nostra.

Of course, I share in your frustration.

I keep thinking of Stanislav Burzynski down in Houston who found a cure for certain types of cancer. The FDA tried like He|| to shut him down, and he quietly and patiently went on with his work.

When they asked him why he didn't counter sue, and why he wasn't mad, he just responded that he knew he was right and eventually his techniques would spread.

He's still practicing to this day.

Here's a link to some beautiful stories of kids with inoperable brain tumors who are alive today:

http://www.burzynskiclinic.com/ph/patient-stories.html

Cheers,



Beth
Webdan65 Posted - 08/21/2007 : 08:46:08
Beth:

I can't say that I'm THAT pessimistic. Asking "When are people going to wake up?" was just a question based out of frustration.

If you've ever spent any time in the Yahoo pain groups - you'll find that mentions of Sarno are moderated out of the responses. Meaning a note to the group about TMS or like symptoms won't even make it to the group most of the time. Why? I have no idea. Probably a fear of "insulting" the group with talk of psychosomatic illnesses.

Yet, you have the moderators who are likely long term pain sufferers themselves dispensing off the cuff diagnosis and medicine recommendations like they went to Harvard medical school. And since THEY weren't cured themselves after years of pain, you hear comments along the lines of: "Mourn the loss of the life you had and accept your new life of pain."

How the F^#* is THAT helpful?

And the few emails that I have sent directly to people in those groups are either ignored altogether or responded to with a curt. "I read the book - doesn't apply to me. I have something REAL wrong with me. It's not imaginary."

Even family members who are suffering from reflux (sister), back pain (father and brother), Fibromyalgia symptoms (mom) won't give TMS a serious consideration despite me eliminating pain with the proper TMS diagnosis.

So, in the end... I hope people DO wake up. Unfortunately the brainwashing of the American public that we are frail and broken may take some time to undo. One person at a time I guess.

To those who have found this forum, congrats! You're in the right place. I know I am.

Dan
h2oskier25 Posted - 08/21/2007 : 06:55:58
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Originally posted by Webdan65

When are people going to wake up?



I'm not so pessimistic as you all. I think people will wake up sooner than we think. When I was a kid, and really into recycling and humane treatment of animals, I totally thought that mankind was too self absorbed to ever improve on these fronts, yet both have improved a lot I think.

The Medical Mafia (The Medicosa Nostra?) has a lot of money on their side, but the truth always prevails sooner or later.

Let's goof on Medicosa Nostra until then, though.




Beth
stanfr Posted - 08/20/2007 : 19:17:44
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When are people going to wake up?


Not likely in our lifetime. these stories always remind me of the classic "Forbidden Planet". We are the Krell, and monsters from the ID are our undoing. We are too fond of our proud achievements to take a good hard look within.
Webdan65 Posted - 08/20/2007 : 18:07:23
This thread is just too funny. But at the same time tragic. When are people going to wake up?

Dan
chrisb89 Posted - 08/20/2007 : 17:52:56
I saw Kobe Bryant on Jimmy Kimmel Live a few days ago he was moving slow and in pain and couldn't sit comfortably. He said he injured his back vacuuming

A 29 year old guy who is one of the best athletes in the world doesn't injure his back chasing after a ball and slamming into other people (an activity he does almost every day) but apparently the act of vacuuming put such a strain on his back that he can't cope

I won't get into the details but anyone who follows basketball knows why Kobe is stressed and is ripe for TMS type pain. But yet all those expensive doctors don't think it odd at all that he injures his back vacuuming. Of course can you blame them? Say he has a psychosomatic injury and peopel start thinking Kobe Bryant is crazy!!!
jrnythpst Posted - 08/02/2007 : 20:44:07
The medical mafia? I like it!! WE should band together and make either a reality series of a cartoon based on this. What shall the doctors be called in it? Can we use some of my old doctors who I not so affectionately named Dr. Doom and Dr. Moron? PPPPLLLLLEEEEEAAAAASSSSEEEEE. LOL Ooohhh I know a nurse or doctor (or hospital even) could be named Carpella Tunnelly and one could be BAcken De Paineth hmmm oh and the ever famous Iza Wannath tu Money. I'm sure I could go on but doubt anyone wants to read all that much on this. It's pretty lame but funny IMHO (in my honest opinion=IMHO).

Thanks for reading my nonsense!!!

Ali Cat

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Ali Cat

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