| T O P I C R E V I E W |
| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 07/25/2007 : 22:44:43
I am praying this right wrist pain and some finger pain is TMS and not a true injury or carpal tunnel..I do this quadricep stretch wherein I put significant strain on my wrist to hold up my leg by putting two fingers in the inside of my sneaker..I cannot hold my leg up any other way for this stretch..I have done this b4 without a problem..but this time it's been bothering my right wrist especially..The one i use to paint and i also play piano when i teach my voice students..The pain was sharp at first then lasted a few days and went away after ice, advil..etc..
This time it's not going away..And it's the same wrist that was bad years ago from being on crutches for months..I am really scared because my livelihoods depends on my right hand, in particular, for painting..I have a big, difficult commission i am supposed to be working on now but i can barely type let alone paint..Any words of encouragement would be so helpful..I just hope it's plain old TMS taking another form in my body..
Hugs and God bless,
Karen |
| 20 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 08/02/2007 : 19:37:45
Yowire,
Overall my neck has improved, but still not 100% since the wrists began. The neck rarely stopped me from brushing my teeth, opening a door or typing and painting. With the exception of when I was in an acute neck TMS attack. During those times, I was laid up in bed. Since an extreme crying session earlier, my neck seems more loose, less tense, but the only thing stopping the wrists from being very painful and shooting into my hand is ice. My stomach won't let me take Advil anymore. Thanks for asking.
God bless.
Karen |
| yowire |
Posted - 08/02/2007 : 19:10:35
Hi Karen,
I am a latecomer to this thread, so maybe you have answered this question already. If so, please forgive me. I was just curious if there were any changes to your other symptoms now that you have the wrist pain. I know you have mentioned neck pain in the past. Has this changed at all since the wrist pain has come on?
Yowire |
| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 08/02/2007 : 18:30:26
ACL,
I am reading what you and Beth told me to, all of it very helpful. We had a rare thunderstorm and when my dog got startled from the thunder, I did too, and I jumped up and pushed down on the worst wrist. I felt pain when it happened and it's been increasing ever since. I feel like I am literally being tortured.
I went toward my art and music studio and put my arms on my keyboard and cried my eyes out, screaming why. I am really losing it, and I should know better. My adopted brother is typing this for me now. I hate to have to ask for help for literally everything. This is ridiculous. I'm doing the work along with dealing with the severe pain.
would it be possible to talk to you on the phone, on my bill? If you are open to that, please write me either through my email peezly@hotmail.com or through my art website which is listed in my profile here. You help me more than you know.
Beth,
If you want please call me as well.
Love to you both. and the others who are trying to help,
Karen |
| armchairlinguist |
Posted - 08/02/2007 : 15:28:38
Tell off the doctor then! What does he know? We all have seen zillions of doctors and for most of us not one of them understood the real problem!
I agree with Beth, don't tell yourself negative messages like "I'm housebound" or "Depression is setting in". You're going to do fine. You're going to get to be angry, you're going to get to do anything you want. You're just taking it easy for a short while. Give yourself positive messages like "It might take a few days or weeks, but soon I'll be healthy and active again." Tell yourself "This pain is pretty awful, but I know it can't really hurt me, so I'll do the Sarno work and pretty soon I'll be out and about again."
Definitely revisit Mr. Amir and check out Nate McNamara's site like Beth said. I also like Rachel's story at http://podolsky.everybody.org/rsi/. They and we have all done it. You can too. I don't know what else to tell you. In the end, you just have to believe in yourself. Believe in your ultimate health and soundness. Believe in your strength and persistence. And act on it.
--
Wherever you go, there you are. |
| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 08/02/2007 : 13:45:46
I will, Beth..thanks..:) |
| h2oskier25 |
Posted - 08/02/2007 : 13:18:58
quote:
Originally posted by Singer_Artist
..i am house bound now..
No you're not, and be careful about the reinforcement of those words !!!
Nobody ever died or was permanently disabled from Wrist Pain. Remember that!!
I know this is hard, but you've got to look within yourself and find a way to break this cycle. I KNOW you can do this.
Remember how bad off Fred Amir was. Remember how he started the simple reward system. (Don't use food - Use something else).
Read Nate McNamara's story on conquerrsi.com.
Beth |
| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 08/02/2007 : 13:04:01
ACL,
The chiro said it was TMS and tendonitis..My medical doctor friend is the one who is scaring me,wanting to call in steroids for 6 days, splint me, etc..He knows how much my painting means to me and he means well..just a typical MD..Not a money thing cuz we are friends..he wouldn't charge anything..I cannot see him in person anyway..he's in N.Carolina, and i in Vegas..probably a good thing..I couldn't even change the sheets on my bed, this is insane..Reading that wonderful article u sent me here..
Reading MBP again..still didn't yell..too depressed now to imagine being pissed..but i am sure i am..sorry if anyone feels frustrated reading this..just being honest..
hugs,
k |
| armchairlinguist |
Posted - 08/02/2007 : 12:53:23
Karen. Go in a room by yourself. Sit down. Say "I will not listen to chiropractors." Keep saying it. Say it REALLY LOUDLY. Yell it.
Get angry instead of scared. Who is he to tell you what's up with your body? How dare he advance his bizarre theories by scaring you?
How are you coming on other ideas people have given you for things to do? Divided Mind? List of pressures? Yelling?
Keep working on that stuff. If the panic/fear/depression stuff starts, STOP it by working on something from the suggestion list. Remember, you really have no idea if anything you are worrying about is actually true. Everyone here thinks you have nothing to worry about because you have TMS and you'll get it sorted over time.
--
Wherever you go, there you are. |
| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 08/02/2007 : 12:25:58
Thanx Carbar..ur reply was very helpful..i had a friend do my typing last night..it is very painful to type or do any basic things..driving now brings on sharp pain..i am house bound now..depression has also set in and, yes, lots of fear..wish i never spoke to my Dr. friend in No. Carolina..he really scared me..i should have known better |
| carbar |
Posted - 08/02/2007 : 10:31:08
Hi Karen,
Sorry to read that you are struggling with this symptom.
As someone whose main TMS symptom was wrist pain, I know how much fear this can strike up.
I really agree with what other folks have to say, particularly about ACL and the list making.
Fear of "pain" or fear of feeling worst pain were excellent EXCUSES to avoid the real emotions underlying this TMS symptom. Since having the symptom is making you feel the real emotion of fear, it's kind of tricky to get under there sometimes, but it sounds like you are doing it!
Keep going! And keep doing what you have to do...look at how you have some strength to type. You HAVE to do the self-care things around the house and you CAN. Keep busy and the pain will fade to the background.
I will eat a hat and a fish, too. You can do this!
|
| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 20:21:38
That's a great idea, stanfr..I used to keep a dream journal years ago..Maybe i will put a tape recorder next to my bed, and also use it to record my deeper emotions I am repressing.
Hugs and God bless,
Karen
|
| stanfr |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 15:50:25
Karen, have you tried looking at your dreams? I mention this because i find it extremely difficult to be conscious of my repressed anger, but i've been trying hard to remember all my dreams recently, and the anger most definitely shows up there--albeit sometimes in very symbolic form. just a thought. |
| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 15:23:18
Art and Beth,
Love you guys! :) |
| h2oskier25 |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 14:56:04
quote:
Originally posted by Singer_Artist
My list would probably be as long or longer then yours, Art..I will read them when i am out of acute pain though..:)
That's all I'm saying, Art. That she needs to be out of Acute pain before she does this.
Karen, I can feel you starting to pull out of this. Here's hoping you uncover lots of repressed stuff.
Regards,
Beth |
| art |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 13:55:45
quote:
Originally posted by Singer_Artist
My list would probably be as long or longer then yours, Art..I will read them when i am out of acute pain though..:)
I actually didn't even mean to literally look at evry single post necessarily, though that would be good too...the important thing is to understand and appreciate the impossibility of all those things going wrong in one healthy body...
Sounds like you see that pretty well already... |
| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 13:11:35
Acl,
OMGoodness, that article is phenomenal! EXACTLY what i need to read..I am half way through and will read more later..still nursing the 'pain'..I so appreciate your sharing with me about your own inner journey as well! I am going to finish this article and ask a friend to type more about it later..God bless your caring soul!
~K |
| armchairlinguist |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 11:51:08
quote:
I have some sort of block to really, deeply express my rage.. I don't know what that is about..
Last night I cried hard over my physical pain and disability to my brother.. When I finally cry, it is so intense, that I begin to gag and lose my breath.. Perhaps that is why I don't cry that often.. Also, being raised like a tomboy makes me inclined to stuff my feelings..
It's very hard to express the rage -- that's kind of why we get TMS in the first place. You can really see from this post that you are in the habit of suppressing/repressing your feelings. Being "raised as a tomboy" most likely meant that your sensitive feelings (which are obviously very strong) were discouraged from coming out in their true forms. This is not healthy; kids need to have their emotions acknowledged and validated as okay. This is a very strong sign that your issues are emotionally based and NOT phyiscally based, i.e., that you have TMS.
I think you've gotten into a bit of a cycle with crying. You don't do it often so it is really intense when you do, so it scares you into not doing it often. There is some intense pressure you need to release, lots of built-up crying. Let yourself go a little bit, trusting to yourself that you are big and strong enough you can handle it. It is not easy or enjoyable to get through the first storms of emotions that come up when you begin exploring, but you CAN do it. Go with whatever comes up and just tell yourself that your feelings are okay, and that you will be okay in the end.
I used to have those kind of intense crying episodes where it would be months since I had last cried and I would sob for a long time and end up really drained. These days I cry often, mostly not very much at a time. It just is a natural part of allowing feelings to come up as they come, and it feels okay. Sometimes I still have the intense episodes if something big comes up. What I've learned is that I will still be there, be me, be okay, when they pass, and I will know more about myself and my feelings.
You might want to check out the essay Growing Towards Wholeness Through Grief (http://www.creativegrowth.com/teresa.htm). I think you will relate a lot to her emotional journey.
--
Wherever you go, there you are. |
| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 08:10:44
My list would probably be as long or longer then yours, Art..I will read them when i am out of acute pain though..:) |
| art |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 06:54:28
quote:
Art, you can't suggest she goes back and reads all of her posts when her wrists are flaring up. Really. Now is not the time.
Well, to be honest I'm not sure why...When I was first struggling with major foot pain around here, I decided to take a good long look at my hypochondriacal ways...I listed evry ache and pain, both serious and not so serious, that I'd worried about and complained about in the past few years...The list was like a mile long...I suddenly realized, hey, wait a minute, this simply isn't possible...
I think Karen's tough enough to handle that. Honestly do. |
| art |
Posted - 08/01/2007 : 06:46:27
quote:
Art, you can't suggest she goes back and reads all of her posts when her wrists are flaring up. Really. Now is not the time.
Well, to be honest I'm not sure why...When I was first struggling with major foot pain around here, I decided to take a good long look at my hypochondriacal ways...I listed evry ache and pain, both serious and not so serious, that I'd worried about and complained about in the past few years...The list was like a mile long...I suddenly realized, hey, wait a minute, this simply isn't possible...
|
|
|
