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| tennis tom |
Posted - 05/17/2007 : 23:48:33
Hi TMS gang,
I just came across this little anti-Tom diatribe by Alexis that she has cloistered away in her Bio. It's one of the finest examples of quoting out of context I have ever seen. I quote it here out of sheer amusement. I have no problem with my contribution to this board, if someone is ever completely bored, they can count my positive posts versus those involved in flames (that I didn't start).
I am honored by Alexis's tribute to me. I will print it, hang it in my locker and think of her fondly whenever I read it.
It appears another attribute of TMS sufferrers is having NO sense of humor. Alexis, sorry if you thought anything I said to you was at all serious, but it's hard to debate assertions that are REDICULOUS, thus my only reply is resorting to sarcasm.
My major problem with you is not that I am a TMS fundamentalist but that you consistently used the board to proselytize doubt in the Good Doctor's theory by spreading in-accurate TMS information. If my correcting your TMS in-accuracies is deemed by you as bad for the board than so be it. Maybe because your father was a doctor you have some need to attack doctors. Not having you on my couch, that's only a wild theory on my part. If I drove people away, you plied them with doubt in the validity of the clinical science underlying TMS. They are better off leaving with flames at their butts and returnig to their TMS books. They are infinitely better off reading their TMS books than hanging out here.
I will repeat that you have done a fine job of taking everything out of context. Alexis, you are wasting your efforts here, you should get a job as a speech writer for Billary Clinton.
Your burying your hate-Tom diatribe deep in the bowels of your bio, is a good example of your cut and run character and inability to face life's problems head-on. I am working on getting a higher degree so that we can debate on a level playing field. I sympathize with your not wanting to associate with your social underlings, those possessing merely a BA from a state college. God Save the Queen!
Yours Truly,
Touche' Tom
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Quoting from Alexis's Bio:
"In case anyone arrived at my bio by clicking on one of the many futile arguments involving "TennisTom", I offer a little background info that might help explain what you're reading and why I am not responding. As a result of the simple idea in the previous paragraph - and any other comment I have ever made that didn't completely toe the most fundamentalist version of the TMS party line - I have been attacked repeatedly by Tom, the list's resident fanatic (a self-described "Sarno Fundamentalist").
**If you are new here, note that there exists a contingency for whom TMS is more religion than science, and for whom Sarno is more messiah than physician. Consider yourself warned.**
I choose now to generally ignore Tom's posts...as conversing with him is an exercise in utter futility. If anyone is puzzled by some odd one-sided tirades on his part...I'm just out of the conversation.
Tom, rather than addressing any point I have made, chooses to try to paint me as some weird subversive infidel to the Sarno creed. To avoid any real debate he throws out a series of either irrelevant comments or outright lies. This is a tactic he uses not just with me, but with anyone who disagrees with his ideas. In my own case a sampling of lies he has used in the past includes:
1) Accusations that I am actually lying about having read Sarno (despite the numerous times I've quoted him and credited the work for my recovery). Usually when anyone disagrees with Tom's ideas he just dismisses them by saying they haven't read Sarno, but in my case I explicitly made clear that I had...so by Tom's logic (or lack thereof) I'm lying.
2) That I copied any criticisms of Sarno's writing from Amazon reviews! (with no evidence, just saying it's obvious.) He's said this twice.
3) Claiming that I am some sort of anti-Sarno crusader (despite the vast evidence to the contrary).
4) Accusing me (again, multiple times) of "cutting and running" from the board when I have said nothing more than that I planned to taper off involvement...something he has said before himself, but unfortunately failed to follow through on. This "cut and run" accusation is a favorite of his, and he takes great pride each time he believes he has caused someone to leave the board.
This is his only known method of discussion, and the reason that after mid-February you will note I am not answering his posts. He has shown himself to be incapable of change or of admitting when wrong, so conversation is pointless. Any comment I make will merely be followed by more lengthy tirades in which he tries through lies and changes of subject to undermine my credibility, and I frankly just don't have the time to address each repeated instance of the same thing.
I'm afraid I believe that Tom and his ilk are some of the greatest barriers to this board's success. He has driven off more people than anyone else here and takes pride in that fact. He presents a fanatical and intolerant face to TMS to newcomers. It is a very, very sad state, and one which I regret will hinder the cure of many people.
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An actual Tennis Tom quote from March 10 2007:
".... it is difficult for me to keep track of all the people I've antagonized and driven away."
Another good quote, in which he made accusations 1 and 2 at the same time is from February 17 2007:
"Many of us (H20 & me) are starting to suspect that you do not posesess a copy of Sarno but have only read reviews on Amazon. We are making an official Full Moon Challenge (it's in the by-laws) that you produce a dated copy of your receipt or a library card within 48 hours emailed to Dave."
April 21 notes: I haven't been reading Tom's posts lately, but I skimmed them today and amused to note that he started the day by falsely accusing Art of saying heroin was good for people, and by mid-afternoon was asking "Can someone tell me if Barry Obama gets elected president, will he be sworn in using the Koran?" Some things never change.
And April 23 sums up best of all why it's not worth engaging in discussion with Tom:
'I'm not into ... a set of "rules of logic" that are slanted for only one side to win the "discussion" and are a lose-lose for everyone not in the PC "club". '
If you, like Tom, want to reject rules of logic and debate widely acknowledged and accepted in cultures around the world for thousands of years, by all means "debate" away with Tom. Just consider yourself warned that logic is not likely to play a part.
Oh, and since Tom has taken to introducing the false implication that I never read The Divided Mind every time he disagrees with me (no matter how off topic) I guess I will clarify here that not only have I as previously stated read a copy I went to great trouble to get through ILL (which Tom knows full well) but I have owned my own copy since the paperback version became available. But I'm leaving this little one for Tom to chew on since his obsession with the issue provides such a great example of his issues.
If I had time to kill I'd like to look up the number of times he's taken the time to imply I haven't read this book. I think he is often determining a person's worth on the number of Sarno books they've read times the square of the number of minutes they ponder each sentence. And, even more bizarrely, he seems to believe others are doing the same.
April 30 -- and what appears to be Tom's life philosophy:
"Practice believing in yourself even if you are wrong, and you will get enough ego to overcome all the losers trying to hold you down to their level."
That combination of paranoia, irrationality and contempt for others should be scaring more people here than it apparently is."
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Some of my favorite excerpts from " THE DIVIDED MIND " :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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| 20 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| skizzik |
Posted - 05/23/2007 : 18:47:30
quote:
Originally posted by h2oskier25
What's a toe wedge?
Beth
giving the ball a little kick out of a rough spot when no-one is lookin |
| h2oskier25 |
Posted - 05/23/2007 : 12:38:32
What's a toe wedge?
Beth |
| art |
Posted - 05/23/2007 : 06:48:15
Your hero Bill Clinton was reknowned for his liberal use of the toe wedge...No surprise there...
I never cheat on my score...I have however been known to improve my lie from time to time... |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 05/23/2007 : 00:37:16
quote:
Originally posted by art
I've not been out yet, T (has our friendship progressed to the point where I can drop one of those T's yet?. My shoulder has been a bear. Thankfully, I'm better. Long, long haul. Planning to play Memorial Day..
I'll let you know if I break 80, but only on condition you let me cheat...
Sure Art, you can call me T, I've been called much worse and am anxiously awaiting WorldTraveler's response to my car collection list.
It's OK by me if you cheat on your scorecard, no one goes to Hell for cheating at golf (or tennis I hope). Sometimes you have to cheat to even out the score when the other guy is cheating. It's amazing, when you cheat a cheater back they suddenly stop doing it. They must figure out that it won't do them any good and their opponent may be better at it.
Some of my favorite excerpts from " THE DIVIDED MIND " :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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| art |
Posted - 05/22/2007 : 14:11:37
I've not been out yet, T (has our friendship progressed to the point where I can drop one of those T's yet?. My shoulder has been a bear. Thankfully, I'm better. Long, long haul. Planning to play Memorial Day..
I'll let you know if I break 80, but only on condition you let me cheat... |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 05/22/2007 : 12:54:50
quote:
Originally posted by art
quote:
Fearing starting a new thread all about ME, and waking Art up,
Don't you remember Art?; you just said that I was always starting threads all about ME? And I retorted, not true, that I seldom start new threads. Maybe you were at the driving range? I hope you hit a slew of holes-in-one today.
Cheers,
tt 
Some of my favorite excerpts from " THE DIVIDED MIND " :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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| art |
Posted - 05/22/2007 : 12:18:28
quote:
Fearing starting a new thread all about ME, and waking Art up,
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| tennis tom |
Posted - 05/22/2007 : 11:49:18
Fearing starting a new thread all about ME, and waking Art up, also not wanting to pick at a scab of a thread, I did find a good quote, from Dr. Marc Sopher's great little TMS tome, TO BE or NOT TO BE... PAIN-FREE, that is at the crux of the issue that BEGAN the "feud":
Page 42,
"So why are physicians so reluctant to embrace TMS theory? For starters, it is difficult to measure. The scientific approach mandates that any treatment be evaluated by formal testing, involving control groups, "blind" evaluations, "double blind" protocols, etc. Too often TMS physicians are dismissed by colleagues who state that the TMS treatment results are "anecdotal". The implication is that our results are invalid because we do not employ scientific protocol. To be blunt, this would be absolutely impossible. To treat someone with TMS, that individual must believe that their phsyical smptoms have a psychological basis. Period. You cannot inflict TMS treatment on someone who believes that their symptoms have a physical cause--be it a disc problem, heel spur, carpal tunnel problem, etc. It cannot be done. This has to do with the extensive conditioning that has occurred (*see Conditioning chapter*)."
So, discerning from the far end of the playing field, who is the idiot and who is the imbecile (I was called both by Alexis), that's what the big deal was about. It wasn't about any personality conflict in it's origin. It was about keeping the TMS info "accurate" and faithful to the name of the board. It's a fundamental of TMS and in that regard I am a fundamentlaist. I accepted the evidence and she did not initially, but seems to be getting it now.
Alexis has a problem with me because I refuse to bow to the NY Times or Harvard style books and speak souly from the TT style book. Also she may have a problem accepting TMS as being "scientificly" valid because her father is a doctor. I don't know, just a conjecture on my part.
Dave, feel free to jetison this thread at your will.
Some of my favorite excerpts from " THE DIVIDED MIND " :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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| h2oskier25 |
Posted - 05/21/2007 : 12:49:19
Late again!
That's me.
I just read this thread, and was appalled that I too was mentioned in Alexis' Bio, and nobody has acknowleged this. Some thing about Tom being quoted as saying "Many of us (H20 & me) . . ."
Well, I'm truly flattered to be mentioned in the Bio of Alexis, but I just can't figure out why, yet.
Alexis has always seemed to want to cast doubt on the good doctor's TMS theory, and while that certainly has it's place, that place is NOT a TMS Help Forum. We all fight now and again, and it's entertaining, even healthy I belive - considering we're a repressed bunch to begin with, and any venting is good venting.
Still, Alexis casting doubt on the good doctor's TMS theory does NOTHING for the people who come here in pain, in doubt, in desperation looking for the sound advice of seasoned self healers who went before them.
Regards,
Beth |
| Woodchuck |
Posted - 05/20/2007 : 09:16:03
quote:
Originally posted by Wavy Soul
Hi Woodchuck
They have a poem in England (don't know about Ameeerica):
"How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
A woodchuck would chuck all the wood he could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood."
That important distraction aside, I just wanted to mention that, to my surprise after decades of mild snobbery, I have become a 12-Stepper (AlAnon) and I find it extremely harmonious with TMS work. It seems as though any and all addictions are a TMS equivalent, or vice versa.
Which brings me to the point I've made somewhere else that it is difficult to imagine who and what we would be if we felt all our feelings in the moment!
Thanks for holding your truth and staying in your own business (as they say).
xx
Love is the answer, whatever the question
Yep, that little poem is popular here as well ;)
I started using Woodchuck as a CB "handle" years ago during the Citizens' Band Radio craze of the 70's and carried it over to the Internet...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens%27_band_radio
I think Woodchuck and Groundhog are synonymous, so it is not a flattering handle, but it stuck with me all these years. LOL!
Good for you on Al-Anon! And I hope the other party involved is doing well too! Dealing with TMS pain on a one day at a time basis also makes perfect sense to me.
Cheers!
Woodchuck |
| Wavy Soul |
Posted - 05/20/2007 : 08:11:31
Hi Woodchuck
They have a poem in England (don't know about Ameeerica):
"How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
A woodchuck would chuck all the wood he could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood."
That important distraction aside, I just wanted to mention that, to my surprise after decades of mild snobbery, I have become a 12-Stepper (AlAnon) and I find it extremely harmonious with TMS work. It seems as though any and all addictions are a TMS equivalent, or vice versa.
Which brings me to the point I've made somewhere else that it is difficult to imagine who and what we would be if we felt all our feelings in the moment!
Thanks for holding your truth and staying in your own business (as they say).
xx
Love is the answer, whatever the question |
| Woodchuck |
Posted - 05/20/2007 : 02:27:33
quote:
Originally posted by tennis tom
Thanks for the explanation WC. In a way it sounds like the concept of original sin.
One might view it that way I suppose from a religious perspective, but I view it as acknowledging my actions/reactions that harm myself and others and then stopping those actions. And if amends are in order, following through with that as well. Basically cleaning up my side of the street and leaving others alone to clean up theirs when and if they choose to do so. That part is none of my business. I can only control my behavior/responses to circumstances and try to improve as I go along. So, it is an ongoing process. For example, one of my weaknesses, character defects if you will or natural tendencies that my next door neighbor may not have, is a hot temper and I've harmed myself and others with it repeatedly, especially prior to getting sober. This did not go away immediately like my desire to drink did. It is something I have to stay conscious of and work on daily. I've gotten much better over the years, but it is still there at times recoiled and ready to strike ;) If I do "lose it" as I occasionally do, I am quick to apologize for my part in creating/enhancing a negative situation and I try to get it resolved and out of the way quickly! It is not because I necessarily want to be a "good" guy, it is because if I don't rectify it quickly, as I've learned over the years, it can then turn into a festering resentment, or I can deny/justify the resentment through my ego (he/she deserved it!) and maybe unconsciously suppress it and then start wondering why my sciatica came back ;) I think that's where the 12-Step guidelines may be useful in dealing with TMS; heading it off at the pass, so to speak ;) - a method to recognize and deal with harmful emotions before they are suppressed. I'm not saying this is for everyone, but at least for me, I think following these guidelines gives me a better chance in the long-term in dealing with my TMS.
Woodchuck |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 05/20/2007 : 00:31:40
quote:
Originally posted by Woodchuck
quote:
Originally posted by tennis tom
I am seeing a pattern emerging here, that a number of the board people are members of AA or have been. I've heard about the 12 step program but that's about it. I enjoy a cocktail or a beer now and again but have never had a problem with alcohol. Maybe part of the AA program is having to prostrate oneself in front of the group and admit to doing bad things. I don't know, but I'm sensing that 50% of Art's irritation with me is that I won't drop-down and admit to some character flaws that I am not guilty of, in my NOT so humble opinion.
So the question is, is the board being influenced by an over-lay of the rules of the AA program? Anyone out there who knows please answer....
...a 12-Step Program can help one see himself as he truly is and then have the courage to work on whatever character flaws he finds. And everyone has them. In most cases one begins to realize how immature his emotions are and then starts the slow process of growing up. All very painful stuff to go through but immeasurably rewarding in feeling good about one's self and feeling right with those around him and therefore, very likely, IMHO, less repressed negative emotions such as anger/rage with its underlying fear.
Woodchuck
Thanks for the explanation WC. In a way it sounds like the concept of original sin.
And, I would NEVER dream of stopping you or anyone else from expressing their thoughts and feelings here; hope people give me the same right. It's just that I thought I saw a pattern, that's all.
Some of my favorite excerpts from " THE DIVIDED MIND " :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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| Sky |
Posted - 05/19/2007 : 12:54:06
That was fascinating Chuck. Thanks.
I've become a big fan of THE WIRE on HBO, and a major theme in the show is why people become drug addicts. I've listened to the writer of the show, David Simon, describe this aspect of the show, and it always reminded me of TMS theories and how we use various tools (TMS pain, drugs, etc.) to run away from thoughts/emotions that, for a possibly infinite number of reasons, we are afraid to feel.
Simon's 6-part miniseries "THE CORNER" focuses exlusively on drug addicts, and its emphasis on the need for drug addicts TO ADMIT TO THEMSELVES that they are drug addicts and WHY they are drug addicts is a fundamental message in the series.
It calls to mind my own problem with the US' war on drugs. Quitting drugs is a process of introspection and honesty, not punishment so much.
Anyway, how about THIS for getting off topic? 
Regadless, I really appreciated your post, Woodchuck. |
| Woodchuck |
Posted - 05/19/2007 : 12:33:02
quote:
Originally posted by tennis tom
I am seeing a pattern emerging here, that a number of the board people are members of AA or have been. I've heard about the 12 step program but that's about it. I enjoy a cocktail or a beer now and again but have never had a problem with alcohol. Maybe part of the AA program is having to prostrate oneself in front of the group and admit to doing bad things. I don't know, but I'm sensing that 50% of Art's irritation with me is that I won't drop-down and admit to some character flaws that I am not guilty of, in my NOT so humble opinion.
So the question is, is the board being influenced by an over-lay of the rules of the AA program? Anyone out there who knows please answer....
TT, not to worry. If you do a little Google research you will see it is impossibe that the board is being influenced by an over-lay of the "rules" of the AA program ;)
That being said, for me, the AA 12-Step Program fits like a glove with my TMS issues. In fact, having struggled for years with alcoholism, 21+ years ago I had an "ah-ha!" realization as a result of the 12-Steps and I lost the urge to drink instantaneously and it has never returned. Likewise, when I finally realized I truly was experiencing TMS, it was a similar "ah-ha!" recognition. Within a little over a week all pain was gone and not a noticeable twinge since. Doesn't matter if it is alcoholism, over-eating problems, obsessive-compulsive issues or pure ego/arrogance itself, etc., a 12-Step Program can help one see himself as he truly is and then have the courage to work on whatever character flaws he finds. And everyone has them. In most cases one begins to realize how immature his emotions are and then starts the slow process of growing up. All very painful stuff to go through but immeasurably rewarding in feeling good about one's self and feeling right with those around him and therefore, very likely, IMHO, less repressed negative emotions such as anger/rage with its underlying fear.
Even though the AA "rules" cannot influence this board, one thing I can assure you is that I will mention AA as often and as lengthy as I feel necessary, for myself, as it is relevant to my continued awareness of my TMS issues.
Hope this at least partially answers your concerns.
Woodchuck |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 05/19/2007 : 11:28:42
quote:
Originally posted by shawnsmith
I at times am resistant to asking for assistance on the board as I have dispenced a lot of advice and any requests for assistance demonstrates a show of weakness on my part - that somehow I don't have a proper grasp of the TMS concepts. I want to project an image of intelligance and competance and I am resistant to showing any signs of weakness in public. In essence, I want to the the expert, the guru, the one who people come to, and not the other way around. My rant thread, however, is a exception to that rule. This is a demonstration, as far as I can see, of low self esteem as well as lingering doubts which I don't like to admit to. But the recognition, I hope, will unmask some of the strange behaviours I partake in which, I feel, act as a form of self defence.
*******
Sarno-ize it!
Shawn, you are doing a brave and probably worthwhile thing; I promise not to use it against you. Keep up the good work!
Good Luck,
tt
Some of my favorite excerpts from " THE DIVIDED MIND " :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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| tennis tom |
Posted - 05/19/2007 : 11:23:03
quote:
Originally posted by art
quote:
I don't know, but I'm sensing that 50% of Art's irritation with me is that I won't drop-down and admit to some character flaws that I am not guilty of, in my NOT so humble opinion.
It's interesting as well that as far as I can recall, you've not even once asked for any sort of assistance. One might safely infer that a person fitting this description might well be, in the psychoanalytic vernacular, "highly defended."
In the grand scheme of human foibles, being highly defended is not the worst thing in the world, but it is unhealthy. Highly defended people are prone to anger and depression and general unhappiness. By definition, they have a big problem with intimacy as well...
Food for thought TT...Food for thought..
Hey, don't get mad at me...I'm just throwing this out there
Hi Art,
Why would I get mad? Disagreement is NOT the same as being mad--it's just a different point of view.
You're point is well taken, I haven't asked for TMS help here. That's not what I'm here for. I'm just interested in the topic of TMS and the board has become part of my homeostasis and increasingly of decreasing value to me, a habit to break, (hold the loud cheering, please, I'll leave on my time-table and my terms). Maybe posting on this board is my TMS/ocd symptom--I am in good company with Howard Stern on that one, my hero.
I don't have a TMS symptom, (that I'm aware of), at the moment. Long ago I thought my hip may be TMS--but now it is what it is. I have learned to recognize and de-fuse many TMS twinges and attacks in their tracks. TMS "knowledge penicilin is part of my medicine cabinet along with Band-Aids, RICE and a styptic pencil.
One is always subsceptible to a TMS attack. To proclaim oneself CURED of TMS would display a great hubris and a profound mis-understanding of the Good Doctor's theory.
But, if I had a serious TMS attack, like my "significant depression" of a year or so ago, I wouldn't ask for help here. I would do what I do when anything else in my life needs fixing; be it my truck, lamp, toilet, legal or medical matters, I would fix it myself or if I couldn't or din't want to use my time, I would seek out the best professional I could afford, someone knows what they are talking about and let them do it.
It takes about six months for a therapist to get enough info on a client to get a handle on the depth of their life situation. Art, you have not walked in my shoes and know darn little about me outside this board. I'm sorry to have to resort to my ususal rejoinder to your arm-chair psycho-analysis of me again, but, maybe you should be pondering if YOU are projecting your life onto mine?
I have seen several TMS therapists and been mutually judged "TMS sane", happy and productive. I have even been DX'ed by a Balinese healer to be the picture of health with "no hang ups". I seldom see doctors, but when I do, my lab-tests come back healthy and I walk-out of the office feeling better than when I walked in.
So Art, what's your problem with me, accept that I won't cop to a basket of problems I don't have and we disagree on politics? Shawn and I vehemently disagree on politics but I don't discredit his knowledge when it comes to TMS accuracy. Your insinuations of me dicredit my character and are not aimed at just my social/political views. I don't have any problem accepting that people can have differing views then mine and we can co-exist without my forcing them to change their character. Vive le Difference!
Is it possible for you to conceptualize that I, or anyone else on this planet, may be relatively happy, productive and leading a rich life and not harboring some dark Jekyl/Hyde underside needing constant scrutiny and picking at like scab?
Best Wishes,
tt
Some of my favorite excerpts from " THE DIVIDED MIND " :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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| shawnsmith |
Posted - 05/19/2007 : 09:52:22
I at times am resistant to asking for assistance on the board as I have dispenced a lot of advice and any requests for assistance demonstrates a show of weakness on my part - that somehow I don't have a proper grasp of the TMS concepts. I want to project an image of intelligance and competance and I am resistant to showing any signs of weakness in public. In essence, I want to the the expert, the guru, the one who people come to, and not the other way around. My rant thread, however, is a exception to that rule. This is a demonstration, as far as I can see, of low self esteem as well as lingering doubts which I don't like to admit to. But the recognition, I hope, will unmask some of the strange behaviours I partake in which, I feel, act as a form of self defence.
*******
Sarno-ize it!
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| art |
Posted - 05/19/2007 : 09:45:24
quote:
I don't know, but I'm sensing that 50% of Art's irritation with me is that I won't drop-down and admit to some character flaws that I am not guilty of, in my NOT so humble opinion.
It's interesting as well that as far as I can recall, you've not even once asked for any sort of assistance. One might safely infer that a person fitting this description might well be, in the psychoanalytic vernacular, "highly defended."
In the grand scheme of human foibles, being highly defended is not the worst thing in the world, but it is unhealthy. Highly defended people are prone to anger and depression and general unhappiness. By definition, they have a big problem with intimacy as well...
Food for thought TT...Food for thought..
Hey, don't get mad at me...I'm just throwing this out there
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| tennis tom |
Posted - 05/19/2007 : 09:13:07
quote:
Originally posted by kilton
Well so much for your streak of not responding to Tom's posts since mid-February. Time to update that sentence in your Bio.
I ask that this thread be locked or deleted. And here's a book recommendation for you two: Emotional Intelligence, by Daniel Goleman.
Come on Kilton, it's been a long hard week and we deserve to have some R & R.
Some of my favorite excerpts from " THE DIVIDED MIND " :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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