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| jim b. |
Posted - 04/07/2007 : 08:33:29
Hi Group,
Im new to the group, but I have been using Sarnos books for a good while now. I was wondering if I could get some feed back from other people that are suffering with this malady. I have learned that just by reading and identfying with a case history, that the pain can go away instantly if my mind makes the right connection. Sometimes that's easier said than done (for me). Consquently I am able to get relief a lot of the time but not all of the time. What I'm looking for are "tricks" or personal storys that can help my mind to "identify" and effectivly make that mind body connection that "hits the switch" TIA, I'm looking forward to using this group and I hope you all have a nice holiday, Jim |
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| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 04/09/2007 : 08:29:41
Thanx for sharing that, Tom...very helpful!  |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 04/08/2007 : 23:54:00
Jim B, here's some excerpts from TDM by Dr. Sopher, hope they help.
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From Dr. John Sarno's THE DIVIDED MIND:
Chapter 10: "A Family Doctor's Experience With Mindbody Medicine"
by Marc Soper, M.D.
Page 342:
"...life is stressful. Even if we are happy and feel good about our families, jobs, and finances, we all experience stress. Stress, anger, and conflict arise from three main sources. There are, first of all, the everyday issues such as our home and work responsibilities, worry about our children, worrying about our parents, inconsiderate drivers, the long line at the market, and the like. Second, some of us have experienced much emotional distress in childhood. Even if we have made peace with it, that distress is still there, a potential source of umpleasant feelings. Third, our own personalities also predispose us to these troubling emotions. If we have high expectations of ourselves, if we are ambitious and place great demands on ourselves, if we are very conscientious about our performance, then these perfectionist traits are causes of stress. If we go out of our way to help and care for others, even to the point of self-sacrifice, then these "goodist" traits also create stress as we make our needs subordinate to those around us."
Dr. Sopher's website is: www.themindbodysyndrome.com
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From Dr. John Sarno's THE DIVIDED MIND:
Chapter Ten: "A Family Doctor's Experience With Mindbody Medicine"
by Marc Soper, M.D.
Page 344:
"...the unconscious mind is the site of repressed and suppressed emotions. It is where the reservoir of rage lurks...I think it provides a compelling image for the origins of pain.
To summarize: Dr. Sarno has identified three potential sources for this rage in the unconscious. In each person the quantity from each source will vary.
1. Stresses and strains of daily life
2. The residue of anger from infancy and childhood
3. Internal conflict (self-imposed pressure--the clash of the id
and the superego; it also comes from perfectionsit and goodist
traits)
Dr. Sopher's website is: www.themindbodysyndrome.com
Some of my favorite excerpts from 'TDM' : http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 04/08/2007 : 23:35:27
Thanx Tom! Yes the forum is helping me, big time, and I am very grateful to all of you..I have always been into evolving into the best human I can be..Looking within can be painful, but it's also gratifying..I have to find time to finish reading TDM, I know it's important to my healing from this..:)) |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 04/08/2007 : 23:28:57
No worries Karen, I feel you are making strides in the right direction and this forum is helping you with that.
some of my favorite excerpts from 'TDM' : http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 04/08/2007 : 22:01:37
Hi Tom,
No you are right, I was being sarcastic and I feel badly about it..I am very rarely that way, but I misunderstood Curiousity and it reminded me of the nightmare thread and how attacked I felt by a few people..I was wrong and overly sensitive in this thread..I feel embarassed about being so darn overly sensitive..I guess I am displaying a typical TMS trait..
Thanx for the holiday wishes!
Same to you..:)
Karen |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 04/08/2007 : 21:00:14
quote:
Originally posted by Singer_Artist
Curiosity,
...I must say, I did get a chuckle out of this...Thanx for brightening up my Easter...Have a lovely Sunday.
~Karen
Karen, sounds like you're being a little sarcastic here yourself...and I know how you deplore that trait in others...but maybe I'm misconstueing it since it is difficult to discern nuances of tone and inflection over the internet.
I wish you a nice Easter/Passover also.
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some of my favorite excerpts from 'TDM' : http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 04/08/2007 : 18:33:09
Curiousity,
Thank you for clearing that up..You were one of the people who got down on me for that other thread, so I was overly sensitive now and I apologize..I don't know what you mean by feeling 'compassion' for me..That sounds a bit on the sarcastic side, but then it's hard to know where someone is truly coming from on the internet..I don't need compassion from you, just regular human respect..In any case, sorry for the misunderstanding..
God bless,
Karen |
| Curiosity18 |
Posted - 04/08/2007 : 18:30:24
Singer Artist,
Wow! I'm not really sure how to respond to you. To be completely honest I was expressing my gratitude to several people, who as it turns out, are in the same thread as yourself. I truly didn't notice this (until you kindly pointed out to me), nor did I deliberately exclude you from my gratitude. Please let's just end this here! And no, I am not holding on to a "forum grudge" against you. Life is too short and crazy for that. I do feel compassion for you, however.
Take care,
Curiosity |
| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 04/08/2007 : 17:42:03
Curiosity,
I did notice that you seemed to go out of your way to speak to every single person on this thread except me..If that was your intention (for me to notice,,, I did..) The good news for me is that I am not going to allow it to affect me negatively..If you are still holding onto some sort of forum grudge about my post wherein I mentioned my art, that is something you are carrying..I really shouldn't bother confronting you on it, because it will probably get me nowhere..I admit I am an outspoken New Yorker and I always try to be real and direct with my feelings/thoughts...I must say, I did get a chuckle out of this...Thanx for brightening up my Easter...Have a lovely Sunday.
~Karen |
| Curiosity18 |
Posted - 04/08/2007 : 17:23:17
jim b.,
Excuse my rudeness- Welcome to the forum!
Curiosity |
| Curiosity18 |
Posted - 04/08/2007 : 17:05:00
Tom, kelvin and ralphyde,
thank you so much for all of your generous contributions to this forum. It really has helped to narrow down the focus of what's really important in TMS recovery. Lately it has been difficult for me to focus on the work (without being distracted by my symptoms),so your posts and links have been especially appreciated.
sensei,
Your posts are so uplifting to me! Thank you for sharing,
Curiosity |
| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 04/07/2007 : 11:19:08
Hi Jim,
Welcome..I think what sensei wrote makes good sense..I would add for me personally that it is still taking time..I am Much better then I was when first introduced to Dr. Sarno's methods..However, depending upon what is going on in my current life, i have varying degrees of lingering symptoms..Lately I am symptomatic due to alot of stress and I am still working on fully accepting it's only TMS..I am one of the stubborn ones, however..THere are many on here who are fully recovered but still working to stay that way or help others..Hopefully you will hear from them too..It's a journey more then a destination..
Happy Easter!
Karen |
| sensei adam rostocki |
Posted - 04/07/2007 : 10:40:14
Hi Jim and welcome aboard. The chances for "instant" pain relief are not good and although it does happen, it is rare. Most patients have to work at it for some time although they usually feel they are on the right path early on. The best way to proceed, in my experience, is with repetition. Read the books and then read them again and again. Take time to think about your condition and apply the knowledge to your own pain experience. Journal everyday and do not set up a time line for your cure. Remember in TMS, the pain relief treatment is a process, not a goal. Concentrate on the process and the goal will make itself a reality without you running towards it. Have confidence in the program and you will be pain free. Personally, I found emotional relief very quickly using knowledge therapy and some physical relief within days. However, it took me a couple of months to really beat most of my pain and about 6 months to wipe out the occasional reoccurences. I am thrilled at my results and have been painfree ever since. - Sensei
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