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| LitaM |
Posted - 04/06/2007 : 05:03:17
Hi, I haven't posted here in a while, although I have been lurking. I just finished reading the book by Dr. Marc D. Sopher. I really enjoyed it. A question I have for you such knowledgeable ones. When I awaken, my discomfort is always mid back, but my neck feels discomfort and so do my feet. I also awaken with a headache. So can TMS cause discomfort in more than one place at a time? I know that it can with Fibromyalgia. Is this common, the mutiple locations? When I read any of the recommended books on TMS, most people only have pain in one location.
I am definetly a TMS personality type and I know that I have a ton of rage in my reservoir. I really related to his calendar watching perfectionism, meaning expecting my pain to go away in x amount of time.
Another question since my back pain has been around for over 5 years and just gives me the most grief in the early morning, remember I am the person who never gets to sleep in. Well I live in Canada so the only test I had done was years ago and it was just a normal x-ray. To have an MRI done, it would take months for waiting.( health care problems in Canada)What would be symptoms that would indicate a serious disease and not TMS? I don't want to be thinking TMS and then find out years later that I had a disease that was casuing the pain. But on the other hand, if you have tests performed and they do find arthritis, buldged disks etc. then you will mentally tell yourself that that is the the cause of your pain. Then the TMS will continue.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks. P.S. I awaken daily and feel like an old woman. Shouldn't one feel great after sleeping? |
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| LitaM |
Posted - 04/07/2007 : 16:57:47
Sensei,
The reason I have a tiny amount of doubt is that I have only asked one doctor about my back and that was 5 years ago. I just had a regular xray and that was it. I have never talked with a doctor about my symptoms since. Of course I wonder if it could really be another illness since I never had much else done.
Truthfully, I really believe that I have TMS. My personality fits, perfectionistic, hard working, responsible, etc. Plus my childhood stress, father was an alcoholic and died of throat cancer when I was 15. Normal life stresses, kids, family, husband, house etc. and the pressure that I put on myself to do everything well. Dr. Sarno says that the pressure that we put on ourselves is most enraging.
Thank you for your encouragement. I am reading Mind Body Prescription again. Then I'll read The Divided Mind again and keep reading them and doing what Dr.Sarno suggests until. Thanks again everyone. |
| sensei adam rostocki |
Posted - 04/07/2007 : 10:30:52
LitaM, You are stuck in the classic psychological CATCH 22. You do not accept TMS as your complete diagnosis 100%, although you would like to...You still doubt that you might be really sick and all the "what ifs" keep creeping back into your head. This is an inherent part of the syndrome and I am sure you know that. My best advice is to thoroughly research all your pains and understand why the clinical picture of each does not make sense as a purely physical condition. This will give you more confidence to "come over to the TMS side of the fence" completely. Sometimes you just need to commit wholeheartedly to something and stay the course. This process alone will give you the confidence to continue on the right path. Hope this helps you. Sincerely, Sensei
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| LitaM |
Posted - 04/07/2007 : 05:19:52
Thanks everyone for posting a response. Sensei, I was the one trying ot post on your site, every time I typed in the word and sent it , it would come back and say incorrect word. I tried around 20x. Oh well, no problem, seems that you answered me here, thank you.
I just find it strange that I have foot pain, neck discomfort, back ache, all at the same time.
I was just wondering what conditions other than TMS, that can cause the same symptoms of TMS, that require more medical help. You don't want someone to be trying to think psychological when they actually need more medical help. Example myself, wouldn't I be a lot more ill, if I were to have some more serious illness. I have been having back issues for about 5 years. Just wondered.
Thanks everyone. |
| sensei adam rostocki |
Posted - 04/06/2007 : 13:56:25
Multiple or changing pain conditions should be taken as even more evidence that your pain is indeed TMS. Physical pain follows a definite anatomical path and does not often change or move around indiscriminately. The profile of your multiple pains should console you and give you further confidence in the diagnosis. This was one of the reasons I was finally able to accept TMS as my tormentor. My pain changed, moved, went away, came back, became a different syndrome, returned to original…etc etc… Sensei
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| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 04/06/2007 : 13:41:12
You're right, ACL..thanx for pointing that out..:) |
| armchairlinguist |
Posted - 04/06/2007 : 12:05:10
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If I sit here long enough, my back will probably start as well
Gotta get out of that mindset, Karen!
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| Singer_Artist |
Posted - 04/06/2007 : 09:32:36
Hi Lita,
I wondered about the same thing when I first was introduced to Dr. Sarno...But then several people on her set me straight that the TMS pain can be in multiple locations at once..I have pain right now in my neck, my stomach and my chest...If I sit here long enough, my back will probably start as well...My primary site of pain is my neck but it is not that uncommon to have a myriad of symptoms all at once...When I am in an acute flare up of TMS, my pain is worse at night..That is consistent with what alot of medical doctors would say is from herniated discs..pain worsening at night..I was told that many times and it didn't help from making me wonder..."Oh no, is it the discs causing the pain??" I had several MRI's and i have 2 herniated discs is my neck, 2 in my low back and several bulging discs in my neck as well..My curve in my neck is reversed, etc..Yet, I believe my pain is from TMS..(I still have doubts creep in but that is why i am here, to rid myself of doubts..) It is important we believe in the TMS Diagnosis..I also asked my TMS therapist if it was possible to have many areas of pain and have it still be TMS..He said, 'absolutely..'
Dr. Sarno says that the great majority of herniated discs are not the cause of pain..The cause of pain is mild oxygen deprivation and a lessening of blood flow to an area..It could be an area of previous injury even..The brain is smart and is trying it's best to fool you into thinking physical instead of psychological..So I don't know if all those MRI's did me any good in the long run..
hope this helps..
Take care,
Karen |
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