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| miche |
Posted - 09/26/2006 : 16:22:13
I went to the doctor today because of a persistant rash on the back of my neck, it is quite itchy and feels scaly to the touch, unfortunetely my doctor was in a foul mood today and did not even see fit to return my hello this morning, so when I mentionned the rash she did not get up from behind her desk to look at it and told me it was either excema or phoriasis, how she could even see it from way across her desk is a mystery to me , and as far as I know both skin problems she mentionned are quite different in appearance, I had waited three weeks for an appointment and two and a half hours to get in to see her, I am angry at her for her lack of professional behaviour and upset that she is the only doctor in this city taking new patients, she wrote a requisition for blood work regarding another matter and then argued she had given it to me and saw me put it in my purse, when she found it on her desk ten minutes later she did not apologise, grrrrr....anyhow the purpose of my post was not to vent, sorry....I would like to know if excema or psoroasis can be a tms equivalent, I have not change soap or shampoo and cannot explain this new symptom, any feedback would be appreciated, I hope someone says yes as I don't intend to go see her unless I am dying, someone must have peed in her cereal this morning, I hate bad manners , I know hate is a strong word, and one I seldom use, unlike me to feel so angry, but I have a beef against the medical establishment at the moment, my daughter in law just suffered four more seizures because the doctor forgot to raise her dilantin after results from the lab showed hers were way too low to control the seizures while she awaits surgery for a brain tumor.  |
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| ndb |
Posted - 09/29/2006 : 07:33:37
Art, I think what you are saying is an extension (to fibro, and severe TMS) of what Sarno said when he talked about rage/soothe ratio in MBP. Also, he mentions a patient's letter about how she felt that TMS patients who are finally understood and empathised with recover because the unconscious rage is soothed.
ndb |
| art |
Posted - 09/29/2006 : 06:43:47
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THANK YOU ALL FOR SHARING YOUR STORIES, Art, Kether thank you for having such faith in me
I have a new theory, which is that kindness, and empathy, and perhaps above all, the ability to disentangle oneself from conscious rage, are all factors in recovery from some of the more devastating and complex illnesses, like chronic fatigue and fibro. When battling maladies that devastating, I'm not sure it's enough to simply "understand," in the way for example one usually recovers from backpain by simply reading a book, or checking out the forum.
At the same time, I don't want to diminish or discount the importance of that understanding...in the case of these more devastating illnesses, it takes a genuine epiphany to really and truly grasp that something so complex and pervasive and damaging can be a product of the mind, and of the emotions. It can't simply be learned I don't think, as much as it has to really and truly "discovered" for oneself, as if for the first time.
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| miche |
Posted - 09/28/2006 : 23:34:21
Thank you all for the great insights and words of encouragement, I am learning so much from all the postings on this forum. It occurs to me that I have new symptoms surfacing or reoccurring on top of the fibro, mostly when the fibro pain abates a bit, bingo! the earache is a new one, the rash on my neck also, I had two days of utter depression, thankfully I remembered reading this being a tms equivalent and told myself it would go away, it did. Logan your experience with the rash and fibro was so much like mine, now I realise that I really am making progress, THANK YOU ALL FOR SHARING YOUR STORIES, Art, Kether thank you for having such faith in me . |
| Logan |
Posted - 09/28/2006 : 09:15:44
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Originally posted by Littlebird
I've always referred to mine as "stress rash" because it flares up when I feel pressured, which is most of the time. Doctors just prescribe steroid cream, so I stopped talking to them about it. I'm glad to have learned about TMS so that I can look forward to getting rid of the rash. I thought I'd be putting up with it forever.
OMG! I thought I came up with the term "stress rash"!
Miche, you should actually be HAPPY about this rash.
What?
I'll explain. I used to get the "stress rash" (something akin to hives and which looks alarmingly like ringworm) all the time. As a kid, my mom took me to the doctor thinking it was ringworm and he explained that it was caused by the remnants of the chicken pox virus in my system and that it would normally be suppressed by a healthy immune system. But if a person was stressed the immune system would temporarily be unable to keep it in check.
I used to get the rash when stressed out. But that was before I got in a car accident and my mindbody seized on that to give me neck/back pain that eventually morphed into "fibromyalgia" like symptoms. I stopped getting the rash altogether during the years I had the pain, until I - thankfully - accepted someone's suggestion that my pain might be somatic and started reading Sarno's books.
As I got better and the pain went away, the rash made a reappearance. I actually rejoiced to see it once again because it was my body's "normal" way of telling me "hey miss goodist, you're taking on too much! slow the hell down!"
Sorry your doctor was such a "see you next tuesday." I was lucky enough as an adult to find a doctor who gave me a steroid cream to use on my rash. It helped. I ran out of the prescription though and I've found that if I just ignore the rash and tell myself it's a TMS equivalent, it goes away on it's own. |
| Kimakim |
Posted - 09/28/2006 : 09:11:17
Miche,
Just wanted to let you know that I've had basically an on-again-off-again rash for the last 20 years or so. Very managable, just little spots showing up here and there, no big deal until I started doing my TMS work and then...bam...big red angry, itchy spots. Coincidence? I don't think so. Although I have to say it was kind of nice to be distracted by something other than my sciatica for a few days. 
Kim |
| art |
Posted - 09/28/2006 : 08:27:30
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Originally posted by miche
Thank you all for responding, the thought did occur to me that it might be tms as the fibro pain has gone from a ten to maybe a five lately ,also as I was reading your responses concerning rashes I remembered that twenty years ago when I realise that my long term marriage was in serious trouble I had hives for three months solid, I was talking to my sister tonight, she once suffered from excema and was seen by a specialist in Toronto who told her that excema was caused by overacidity of the body and stress, so I will treat it as tms, I am still in awe as to what my subconscious can do, what a conniving little devil it is. I am happy to say that I have made a lot of progress in believing all this pain is emotional, I am now hopeful that I can beat this, I am very grateful to all the members on this board who keep me on the right track and offer advice ,support and encouragement when I need it, you are all awsome
Wonderful to hear, miche.
Honestly, I never doubted for a second you'd recover.
You're an inspiration to us all... |
| Littlebird |
Posted - 09/27/2006 : 15:26:57
Kether, would you mind posting the name of that book about the dermatologist who switched to psychiatrist? That sounds really interesting. Thanks!
Corey |
| miche |
Posted - 09/27/2006 : 00:20:58
Thank you all for responding, the thought did occur to me that it might be tms as the fibro pain has gone from a ten to maybe a five lately ,also as I was reading your responses concerning rashes I remembered that twenty years ago when I realise that my long term marriage was in serious trouble I had hives for three months solid, I was talking to my sister tonight, she once suffered from excema and was seen by a specialist in Toronto who told her that excema was caused by overacidity of the body and stress, so I will treat it as tms, I am still in awe as to what my subconscious can do, what a conniving little devil it is. I am happy to say that I have made a lot of progress in believing all this pain is emotional, I am now hopeful that I can beat this, I am very grateful to all the members on this board who keep me on the right track and offer advice ,support and encouragement when I need it, you are all awsome |
| turtle23 |
Posted - 09/26/2006 : 21:26:51
I agree that it is TMS related. If you know for sure that you didn't change anything (meaning shampoos, detergents, etc.), take a look at how you are feeling. Sounds like you do have a lot of anger right now, which may just be the reason you have a rash on your neck.
I have been to the dermatologist numerous times for a recurrent rash that they cannot identify. Finally, I have given up on them, especially now that I know about TMS. Also, I can completely relate to the anger you feel toward the medical community. |
| Littlebird |
Posted - 09/26/2006 : 21:12:28
I've always referred to mine as "stress rash" because it flares up when I feel pressured, which is most of the time. Doctors just prescribe steroid cream, so I stopped talking to them about it. I'm glad to have learned about TMS so that I can look forward to getting rid of the rash. I thought I'd be putting up with it forever. |
| ndb |
Posted - 09/26/2006 : 18:55:39
I get bad psoriasis/eczema (not sure which) on my elbows and legs from time to time. They subside in a month or so if I don't obsess over them. Its TMS.
ndb
P.S. See page 113 of Mindbody prescription. There is a section on Skin disorders in the chapter on TMS equivalents. |
| sonora sky |
Posted - 09/26/2006 : 16:54:50
Yes, yes, YES. Skin things are TMS. It's mentioned by Sarno (he specifically mentions eczema and psoriasis) and all his supporters that I've read. I've had a bunch of skin issues. Have been prescribed lots of medications, none of which worked. Interestingly, one of my dermatologists (I've had conflicting diagnoses) said, "so, what's going on with you?" (as in, "what's going on in your life that's making your skin itch like crazy for little or no reason?"). They eventually cleared up on their own (usually when my TMS moved to another location). I have recurrances now and then, but I've been able to stave them off more quickly since learning about TMS.
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