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| Carol1247 |
Posted - 09/16/2004 : 23:29:59
Hi Folks,
Well, I just returned from 10 days in Sedona and I'm doing well. Before I left, my chronic neck pain (for 35 years) had cleared up and then my shoulder started to really hurt. I was feeling pretty disabled since lifting, opening doors and doing almost anything that required strength was difficult. I decided to continue listening to the tapes, reading the book and doing everything physically that I could manage. I climbed red rocks, hiked, swam, played golf, bounced around in a jeep and at about the mid point in the week, the pain stopped and it hasn't returned.
To follow up with my first post where I mentioned that I was finished with chiropratic: In all fairness to chiropractors, my doctor of 15 years tried to help me emotionally and spiritually. The cracking and crunching was, I now know, a placebo. There were many times he tried to clear an emotional issue before he adjusted. But it was always the same 3 or 4 hot issues every time. In other words, it was a temporary emotional healing like the temporary physical healing. Maybe we just need to clear our emotional stuff ourselves? What do you think?
I have noticed since reading the book that I have a ongoing, angry, grumpy dialogue running in my mind a lot of the time. I have concluded that it's better to say out loud what's going on in there even if nobody's around. Not to speak it just keeps it under wraps and encourages fatigue and pain somewhere. Now when my husband leaves a mess, instead of grumbling internally I say out loud "it really annoys me to clean up after you!" I notice an immediate jump in my energy which I think is a really good sign.
Another note on anger. One pattern I have had is repressing anger for as long as I possibly could and then blowing up at someone/something followed by hours of house cleaning. I would use the upsurge of energy to do cleaning that I was too tired to do before.
By the way, has anyone heard of the Sedona Method for releasing feelings?
CAROL |
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| Carol1247 |
Posted - 09/19/2004 : 13:38:51
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Originally posted by tennis tom
Dear Carol,
I want to congratulate you again on your being "cured" from 15 years of neck pain. It's amazing that a BOOK can heal something that 15 years of chiropractic couldn't. I also went to chiro's, as well as trying every other therapeutic modality from A to Z going on ten years now. I agree with you that it was placebo. As soon as you get out of the therapist's parking lot and into the traffic of life, the pain quickly returns.
I hope you are celebrating and enjoying doing all the physical pursuits that TMS pain has deprived you of for all these years. It would be great if you would continue sharing the transformations that are occurring--emotional as well as physical.
Hi Tom,
Thanks for your validating post. I had become a master of repression and had also developed a high tolerance for pain for the last 35 years. The latter worked to my disadvantage regarding dental problems. I've had an infected tooth for a long time and had ignored the pain and aching. I finally had a root canal therapy and my energy went up almost immediately. This is a case of a real problem in the body causing real pain, but I had so much pain in my body in general that I had conditioned myself to ignore it. I think I may have one more tooth to take care of and then I think it will be interesting to enjoy my pain-free body for the first time in over 3 decades!
Just another note on chiropractors: I have moments when I think of how I used to be, always running to my chiro for every ache and pain. And now, I have no plans to ever spend another nickle on placebo treatments. It's kind of like having someone prove to you that the earth is a sphere and not flat. You stare out at the horizon and wonder "how could I have ever believed that the earth was flat?" I really love how Sarno heals with information. Just tell someone the truth and watch the ignorance (and pain) fade away.
CAROL |
| moose1 |
Posted - 09/19/2004 : 09:36:49
Carol,
Thanks for the information on the Sedona method. I've glad you've found a stragtegy which has helped you so much. I will see if my local book store had a copy of the book for me to flip through.
Moose |
| Carol1247 |
Posted - 09/19/2004 : 00:15:55
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Originally posted by moose1
Carol,
I was looking at the Sedona web site, and while it looks and sounds fantastic, I have to admit that I am very skeptical of anything that promises such things as "effortless prosperity" and offers "inner peace, joy and love" or your money back. Did you share any of these concerns before you attended their program? And is it really as "effortless" as they claim? It's just that in my experience, if it sounds to good to be true, it usually is.
I am interested to hear some details about your experience with it.
Thanks in advance.
Hi Moose,
I'm still recovering from a root canal, but I'll share a little about the Method.
About 7 years ago, I received info about the Method in an email from a person I barely new. She suggested trying a "technique", but didn't identify it as the Sedona Method. It was a bare bones version of the Method that is taught today, but my husband and I tried it and really liked it. We got results right away. It was really simple and effective.
A few years went by and we heard about the Sedona Method from another source and noticed that it was the same technique that we'd been using off and on for a few years. We decided to take a weekend class taught by a psychologist and his partner and it was OK, but I think we were getting better results on our own by working together as each other's "coach". We made it our own and had our own way of adapting the wording to get the results we were after. I should mention here that we have never taken a course from Hale Dwoskin himself, but we did meet him recently in Sedona, AZ when we vacationed there last week. I can tell you without hesitation that he is a very clear, joyful person and it felt very good to be in his presence. He's the real deal, not phony in any way. If I ever get the chance to take the course from HIM, I will do it in a heartbeat.
The Method is pretty simple and effortless, but you have to make it a regular part of your life to be really effective. As you have probably experienced, human nature being what it is, we tend to get derailed at times and stop doing the things that are working for us. I honestly believe that I have more prosperity, inner peace, joy and love when I do the Method regularly. I have attended dozens of seminars, have bought loads of tapes and gizmos and this is the only thing that I have gone back to consistently when I really need help. It's worked for virtually every emotional problem I've had.
I hope this explanation helps you. If you order the free tape or read Hale's book (or both), I think you will have a more complete picture what what the Method can do for you.
CAROL |
| moose1 |
Posted - 09/18/2004 : 21:16:18
Carol,
I was looking at the Sedona web site, and while it looks and sounds fantastic, I have to admit that I am very skeptical of anything that promises such things as "effortless prosperity" and offers "inner peace, joy and love" or you money back. Did you share any of these concerns before you attended their program? And is it really as "effortless" as they claim? It's just that in my experience, if it sounds to good to be true, it usually is.
I am interested to hear some details about your experience with it.
Thanks in advance. |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 09/18/2004 : 20:51:38
Dear Carol,
I want to congratulate you again on your being "cured" from 15 years of neck pain. It's amazing that a BOOK can heal something that 15 years of chiropractic couldn't. I also went to chiro's, as well as trying every other therapeutic modality from A to Z going on ten years now. I agree with you that it was placebo. As soon as you get out of the therapist's parking lot and into the traffic of life, the pain quickly returns.
I hope you are celebrating and enjoying doing all the physical pursuits that TMS pain has deprived you of for all these years. It would be great if you would continue sharing the transformations that are occurring--emotional as well as physical. |
| Carol1247 |
Posted - 09/18/2004 : 15:29:58
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Originally posted by Suz
Carol,
It looks like one has to buy tapes etc. Is this a kind of religion of sorts? I have a very strong faith and am always wary of "spirituality" programs. Is it an exercise you do when you feel anxiety?
I have spent so much money on chiropractors, neurologists etc. etc. that I am now cautious of new methods promising the world.
thanks for all your info
Suz
Hi Suz,
It's not a spirituality program. It's just a simple way to release emotions - ALL emotions. If you release on the good stuff, it just gets better. There's a great book written by Hale Dwoskin. Most bookstores carry it. It's called The Sedona Method: Your Key to Lasting Happiness, Success, Peace and Emotional Well Being If you see it in your local bookstore, flip through it and see what you think. The author put literally everything about the method in that book. I met the guy recently in Sedona, AZ and he's the real deal. Nothing phony about him. Oh, by the way, Amazon has several used copies for under $10.
I've taken one weekend course on the method, but frankly, in my opinion, everything you need is in that book. I find that doing the method on my own is very effective. The author was very generous with his information. Most authors and seminar leaders force you to attend expensive programs to get the info.
I think they offer a free tape or CD. I don't think there is any obligation to ordering it. Between the free tape and the book, you will have a pretty good idea of how the method works. After that, it's just practice.
Take care,
CAROL |
| Suz |
Posted - 09/17/2004 : 15:39:01
Carol,
It looks like one has to buy tapes etc. Is this a kind of religion of sorts? I have a very strong faith and am always wary of "spirituality" programs. Is it an exercise you do when you feel anxiety?
I have spent so much money on chiropractors, neurologists etc. etc. that I am now cautious of new methods promising the world.
thanks for all your info
Suz |
| Carol1247 |
Posted - 09/17/2004 : 13:07:00
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Originally posted by Suz
I would love to know about the Sedona method - could you give a description when you have a chance?
thanks very much
Hi Suz,
Check our www.sedona.com for more info. I'm finding the technique very simple and effective.
Let me know what you think of it.
CAROL |
| Suz |
Posted - 09/17/2004 : 12:20:27
Screaming in the car is fabulous! It is actually when I started doing this that I experienced a turn around. It seems to be the ultimate expressing of rage. Of course, it is socially not acceptable to do it anywhere else except in the middle of the woods or on a desert island maybe!
for people who have repressed for so long, I think this is an amazing release. I have found it even more effective than crying. I do think that rage more than sadness produces the TMS condition |
| Stryder |
Posted - 09/17/2004 : 12:03:20
Tennis Tom mentioned something about venting out loud in the car, and I have found myself doing that as well. I think it has helped. There is an added advantage that, if you have the windows rolled up, you can scream as looud as you want and no one is going to hear you. You do so at home with the house windows open and the neighbors think there is a domestic dispute going on ;-). But after (venting in the car) I've also noticed the burst of "clarity" in my thinking, that a heavy load has been lifted. Too bad it doesn't last longer. Take care. -Stryder |
| Suz |
Posted - 09/17/2004 : 10:55:18
I would love to know about the Sedona method - could you give a description when you have a chance?
thanks very much |
| Carol1247 |
Posted - 09/17/2004 : 08:56:37
Thanks for your reply.
I noticed another post of yours from a couple of weeks ago:
"This whole experience (hurricane) has taught me how important focus really is to our healing process. We need to keep ourselves busy and not "drift" through our days".
I definitely agree with you on this and the only thing I would add is to focus on what we "want" and not what we don't want. It occured to me that when I get mad (at my husband's messes), it's just that part of me wanting what it wants. The first expression is what I don't want, but that's important because it helps me define what I do want (less mess). Jim Campobello in the MBP book mentions writing out a list of things that are bothering you and then also writing what action can be taken. That would definitely get a person headed in the direction of the solution and not stuck stewing in anger or rage.
I'll let you folks know how this Sedona Method works. It's not a physical exercise. I think it's teaching me to release and let my negative and positive feelings go as they are happening, but also old stuff, too. One of the biggest helps so far has been the way it deals with resistance.
More later . . .
CAROL |
| tennis tom |
Posted - 09/17/2004 : 00:36:23
WOW, Carol, congratulations on your TMS cure! 35 years of neck pain is a long time. I often express my anger out loud while driving my car. I also feel less inhibited talking to myself. Some of the most intellegent people I have known talked out loud to themselves--it doesn't mean one is crazy. I think expressing our anger and emotions out loud is a good release and prevents our anger from being repressed, thus preventing our sub-conscious pool of rage from overflowing and becomeing TMS pain. Keep up the good work Carol and thanks for sharing your TMS recovery experience. |
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