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| BumShoulder |
Posted - 06/29/2006 : 08:18:35
Hi, newbie here. Wondering if anyone has had a similar experience and success with TMS treatment. I'm a tennis player that has had moderate to severe shoulder pain on any overhead motion (serving and throwing). Was diagnosed with "impingement," did over a year of PT, then finally had surgery - a subacromial decompression. Zero success. Doctor mentioned he noticed a surprising amount of tendinitis during the surgery, but structurally, there is nothing wrong that should be holding me back.
If anyone has had a similar experience or has any advice, or can guide me to any shoulder threads... |
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| altherunner |
Posted - 08/19/2006 : 21:31:32
I had neck, back, hip, and right shoulder pain for 20+ years. I separated my right shoulder in a fall, about 10 years ago. All these pains have subsided over the last 3 years, after reading and re-reading Dr. Sarno. I occasionally have a relapse, almost immediately after a stressfull event, ie:a fight with a family member, I mess up at work, etc. I think it is easier to relate neck and shoulder pain to stress, as we know we tense our neck and shoulders physically when we tense up. When I wake up in the morning, I consciously relax my scalp, my forehead, my face and jaw, then my neck and shoulders, and then the rest of my body. When I relax my scalp, I can feel the rest of my body follow. It sounds funny, but try it. Think of someone you know, that always has a furrowed brow. |
| Gecco |
Posted - 08/17/2006 : 11:45:27
I have had pain in my right shoulder (front, back) and in the biceps tendon for over 2 years now. I was told that need to do a decompression to relieve the pain. Biceps twitches and hurts when I swing my arm (as in walking). I have to put my hand in my pocket. Bothers me when driving and typing, and can't use it for tennis or golf. Very afraid of subsequent pain.
Several moinths ago I was scheduled to do the surgery and the pain diminished and shifted over to my left shoulder. I pushed the right shoulder for a week (golf weights, etc - no pain) I canceled the surgery and assumed it was TMS (I have read Sarno). The pain soon returned to the shoulder. I am convinced it is TMS but it is very persistant. Any thoughts? |
| ndb |
Posted - 08/16/2006 : 20:40:18
Hi BS,
I recovered from "RSI" which gave me shoulder pain and shooting pain in the nerves that go to the hands. I was diagnosed with nerve impingement which was then changed to thoracic outlet syndrome when the mri showed no impingement, blah blah... my feldenkrais (a kind of physical therapy) teacher said i had tendinitis in my shoulder in addition. in reality it was TMS, and i recovered in a month after doing Sarno's work...after having been practically disabled for a year.
These days I have zero shoulder pain, and am back to all normal activity.
regards,
ndb |
| Stryder |
Posted - 08/16/2006 : 18:44:34
Hey BumShoulder,
You should change your user name instead of wearing your physical symptoms on your moniker. Make the good doctor proud.
Sarno Rules !
Take care, -Stryder
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| Brian |
Posted - 08/16/2006 : 12:56:45
I had shoulder pain for about 6 months and could not bench press or shoulder press. Then for some reason the pain switched to my elbow and I have had trouble getting rid of that. The point being I used to not be able to do one push up because of my shoulder and know I am benching 225 LBS. |
| salamander |
Posted - 06/30/2006 : 09:30:18
Hey BumShoulder,
Yes, I'm 100%. It was the acromium process or whatever that the doctor talked about.
I've since had no problems and I too am an avid tennis player. The difficult part is getting back into whatever you enjoy doing because of the fear factor. I would gradually re-introduce myself to tennis.
If you have not read Sarno yet, then I guess I would recommend the "Mind Body Prescription". Although all of his books cover the same "syndrome".
Best of luck,
Doug |
| Special One |
Posted - 06/29/2006 : 17:21:43
I got my first bout of tms shoulder and elbow pain after conducting a childrem's choir one hour a day for 5 days. I also wiped down the bathroom walls. Oooh, big injury risks there! (kidding) I was so scared of the pain. I wore ice on my shoulder around the house. I thought I was gentically predisposed to shoulder problems because my mom has pain in the same shoulder. I saw a doctor and she suggested impingement. Then I read about tms. I had lots of other tms symptoms, too. I started doing push-ups each day, regardless of the pain. I could only do 15 at first. That was a few months ago. Now I do 30 easily almost every night. I have not had a recurrence of severe pain. Once in a while there is a twinge, tightness, or popping, but I have lost my fear and so I am no longer a victim. I conducted another choir recently, and I was fine. I think the fear factor is huge in regards to conquering tms. It also helps when one sees the results of using the tms approach after trying their best to accept that tms is the culprit. There is always tms work to be done, but someday, I think I will be so used to the chaged way of thinking, it will not even seem like therapy, and I will feel so much better. TMS is the only hope I have found for many of my pains. Good luck! |
| BumShoulder |
Posted - 06/29/2006 : 17:10:03
Great, thanks for the replies. Much appreciated and very helpful.
Doug - Yes, that is EXACTLY what they told me, that my acromion process (?) had a pronounced curve. Had the curve shaved back in surgery...didn't help. My day to day stuff has always been fine, I just can't play tennis and baseball anymore, which is extremely discouraging. I guess I'll learn about the personality profile as I read the books (just ordered em). So is your shoulder 100% now?
Thanks Mary Ann, that is music to my ears.
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| Mary Ann |
Posted - 06/29/2006 : 15:36:42
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Originally posted by BumShoulder
Hi, newbie here. Wondering if anyone has had a similar experience and success with TMS treatment. I'm a tennis player that has had moderate to severe shoulder pain on any overhead motion (serving and throwing). Was diagnosed with "impingement," did over a year of PT, then finally had surgery - a subacromial decompression. Zero success. Doctor mentioned he noticed a surprising amount of tendinitis during the surgery, but structurally, there is nothing wrong that should be holding me back.
If anyone has had a similar experience or has any advice, or can guide me to any shoulder threads...
I found Sarno 6 years ago after suffering from shoulder tendinitis in both shoulders for over 2 years. I think it initially came on in my first shoulder from poor technique in the pool and then a mountain biking crash wrecked the other shoulder. Both injuries initially cleared up, but then I had a "relapse" a couple of months later that affected both shoulders.
I thought it was overuse from swimming and xc skiing. That may have been the source of the initial aggravation, but it took over 3 months to get out of the acute stage! I then went from one therapy to the next: cortisone shots, chiro, PT, massage, accupuncture, ART. I quit swimming and any kind of activity that involved my arms (I think I could do a power walk but that's about it) and gained 30 lbs. I did finally get back to swimming after the ART, but I was in constant fear of a relapse and couldn't do anything "hard" without returning to pain.
In 2000, a friend recommended the book to me and I saw myself instantly. I quit all therapies, followed the treatment advice was completely pain-free about 6 weeks later and have not had any shoulder trouble since (except for a few more mountain bike crashes!). I now regularly swim about 7 to 9 km a week.
I've treated food intolerances and other aches and pains with similar success. It keeps coming back, but I see it a mile away and it doesn't stay long!
As the previous posters have said, there is no magic to shoulders. You believe it is TMS and you will be fine.
Mary Ann |
| salamander |
Posted - 06/29/2006 : 14:51:01
Yes,
I recovered twice from Shoulder pain. My triggers were from swimming and from playing pool. I had MRI's, etc...therapy. I'm convinced that my Shoulder problems were TMS. I was diagnosed by docs as having the impingment...they also said the curved bone (forgot the name) was more pronounced in my shoulder, and that I would always have tendencies for impingement because of the close quarters. Blah.. blah...
It really boils down to whether you believe in TMS. If you're personality characteristics fit Sarno's profile, then I'd head toward TMS as the cause.
I'll bet that you are totally fixated on the "tendonitis" diagnosis. If you allow yourself to dwell on this, you might invision the tendon snapping, decaying, rubbing, etc...as I did when I had a similar diagnosis. This will feed into the anxiety and stimulate TMS. Sarno believes that tendonitis is TMS. After all my experiances, so do I.
Forget about your shoulder, because it is fine. Start to resume your normal day to day stuff.
Regards,
Doug |
| armchairlinguist |
Posted - 06/29/2006 : 11:13:02
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2194 is a recent shoulder thread.
But remember if it is TMS it doesn't matter where it is...
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