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| Susie |
Posted - 06/05/2004 : 09:29:50
I am very curious to know how some of you have gone about trying to help others with Dr. Sarno's methods. In finding Dr. Sarno, I feel like I discovered the wheel. I, like I'm sure all of you, have had so much discomfort alieveated by using his method. It's very exciting to me that something so within everyone's grasp is so helpful. I am now able to see so many people suffering with tms symptoms that have been attributed to other causes. It seems that when I try to offer this information, most of my friends look at me like I've lost my mind. In what manner have some of you had the most success in passing on this information? I think it's natural to want to help someone, but at what point is it proper to offer? |
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| kenny V |
Posted - 06/09/2004 : 06:14:00
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*I am also a real believer from personal experience that it is a mindset that an individual has to be really ready to embrace
*Much later, in sheer desperation, after a difficult and painful couple of months,
Shellie,
These words are so true, it is amazing how much pain we can endure and it is unfortunate the things we will do to get out of the pain that we are in. And how far and desperate these people are willing to go to an extreme remedy.
Some people find no answer, living a life in constant pain, get drugged to a point that they believe quitting life is the only answer. It almost happened to me on that Neorontin. That is why we should at least offer some help and share some of our personal experience in recovery
Always Hope For Recovery
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| pault |
Posted - 06/09/2004 : 05:10:59
I put a picture of Dr.Sarno and Dr. sopher on the wall of my office along with John stossel and his article.I have copies of tms sites and book info.Some people read the book relate immediatelly,others throw it to the side and later look for the book again after conventional medicine doesn't work and they get desperate and read it again.All one can do is offer the info and hope for the best! Paul. |
| shelliebill |
Posted - 06/08/2004 : 15:57:55
I've pretty much backed off of explaining the Sarno method unless specifically asked to...it's too frustrating. I am also a real believer from personal experience that it is a mindset that an individual has to be really ready to embrace, not something that will come from a conversation with a co-worker, casual friend, etc.
I bought Healing Back Pain several years ago. I can't really remember when, but probably after reading an article referencing a Larry King show about him. I know I started reading it because I found the bookmark about 30 pages in, but it had no impact whatsoever on me at the time and I literally threw it under the nightstand. Much later, in sheer desperation, after a difficult and painful couple of months, I stumbled across it and by page 10 I couldn't believe how I saw myself on every page. I find it amazing that one person can have such a radically different view of something from one time to the next.
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| Dave |
Posted - 06/08/2004 : 08:41:44
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Originally posted by JoeW
I also joined an RSI mailing list, with the intention of spreading the word, but soon realised that there was a lot of resistance, and many people seem almost proud of their "injuries", being quick to reel off lists of all their different diagnoses.
The fact remains that Sarno's theory is not accepted by most people on this planet. It is too frightening for some to even consider the possibility that their condition is not "real." The injury is a part of their personality. |
| JoeW |
Posted - 06/07/2004 : 20:09:52
I too felt the need to spread the word, but it is hard, particularly if people have gone a long way down the physical route. I was too late to help a co-worker, who left his job because of RSI/OOS. He was only 21, and had worked at the company since 17. In fact I think it was for the best - he needed a change, and is now travelling the world. Hopefully that in itself will cure him.
I also joined an RSI mailing list, with the intention of spreading the word, but soon realised that there was a lot of resistance, and many people seem almost proud of their "injuries", being quick to reel off lists of all their different diagnoses. I'm still determined though, but limit myself to adding encouragement or explanation whenever a "mindbody" approach is mentioned, and correcting mistakes about Sarno's technique (the most common of which is that it is just "positive thinking").
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| kenny V |
Posted - 06/07/2004 : 13:10:48
What can you do you win some and lose some.
Over this weekend my sister in law was very upset with me bc/ about two moths ago I lent her the video, followed by the books, and I pressed the issue (out of care) too far.
Five moths back one fellow I knew was going for his umpth surgery 4 different types, after viewing the video he was so receptive went out and bought all the books and read them asking many questions.
Then one day I followed up to how he was doing he said, “sorry” “I cant except this anymore, I am going
Ahead with the surgery:”
Well about 2 moths ago I went to an anniversary banquet and spoke to everyone that I knew suffered from different types of ailments. Just this past Sunday I get a phone call from one gentleman that wanted to know more about what I was sharing to him that night.
You can only plant the seed and shed some light. It will take the person who is searching for more answers to in return, seek out the answers for them selves. It is all about the soil how ripe it is.
I always say to them it depends on how much pain you’re in to how much you’re willing to listen.
But that is not true, many have been there but are not willing to let go of what they are holding on to.
Some will receive the message gladly at first and then from being exposed to programming will fall away.
Some it will take root and will grow, as they want to know more. All you can do is put out the bread.
Always Hope For Recovery
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| Carolyn |
Posted - 06/06/2004 : 10:32:04
I find this to be such a tricky thing. For years, when doctors could not find a cause for my pain, they would 'tell me it's all in my head'. I was offended by this and would go off and find a new doctor who offered some sort of 'real' therapy because I KNEW my pain was real. It is insulting as though they are telling you you are faking it or that you are mentally unbalanced. Because the pain can make you seem so needy, I assumed that they just weren't realizing that I was a high-functioning normal person before the pain debilitated me. If only one of these doctors had really understood TMS theory and explained it in a compassionate- we know the pain is real- and it is not your fault- it is a very real physical manifestation of issues that arise out of your mind- way, I definitely would have been more receptive. I think I was at the end of my rope by the time I discovered the TMS theory and due to the inconsistant nature of my pain at times, I was beginning to wonder if there was a psychological component, so I was receptive to it. I can think of several friends and relatives who are really suffering, with back pain, TMJ, chronic fatigue, gastrointestinal issues, even a diagnosis of MS followed by an acute attack of back pain for which this person is considering surgery. I really want to help but my gentle suggestions are met with anger as though I am doubting their symptoms. It is hard to admit that you have been in control of your symptoms after all. Even I am a little embarassed to admit that there really was a psychological cause after all these years of insisting otherwise so I understand the response I get form others.
Carolyn |
| Sarah Jacoba |
Posted - 06/05/2004 : 22:44:22
I tell everyone who is having chronic pain about my experience with TMS theory! If they dont agree they can always ignore what I say! I dont see how information/my experience could offend, if presented kindly
--Sarah
"When dream and day unite" |
| kenny V |
Posted - 06/05/2004 : 10:13:11
Susie,
This has been a hot topic with me for well over 6 months with the TMS help.
When you get your life back that has been taken away by the grip of PAIN and TMS related symptoms.
And released from the bondage of its hold how could you not want to share.
Along with over 3 years, being an advocate for the well being of our children’s health, concerning the misconceptions of the mass vaccination campaign, as well as environmental toxicity’s.
It goes on and on when you have been effected in life by many circumstances and exposed to many real life stories. Only to get the rolling of the eyes and family members as well as friend and workers that shun away, you get used to it.
But its ok, your just doing what you think is right and want to help others who are suffering.
You can only do what you can do. And your own words are the best way to describe what is right.
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Have any of you tried to help people like this with an explaination of Dr. Sarno's work? They look at me like i've lost my mind. I have had to back off because I feel myself becoming evangelistic about Sarno.
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| Sadiesue |
Posted - 06/05/2004 : 09:57:28
When I first read the book and starting working with the method I felt that way too. Like I had to share it with everyone I knew! But I am coming to realize this is a part of my perfectionistic and goodist personality. I think this may also be a defense mechanism in and of itself. I see how the book can help others before I realize how it can help me. I want them to read the book so they can be healed, but don't realize how I can be healed by it too. I see how everyone else's personality so fits the profile, but surely not me!
I think the best way to share the lessons of Dr. Sarno's books is to be an example. When they ask how you got to be pain free you can lend them your copy of your book. |
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