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| Jena |
Posted - 04/14/2006 : 21:33:24
okay some of you know who i am. I am one of Dr. Sarnos patients who first saw him in Late January of this year. After seeing him i was 98% pain free for a long time but the last month i have not been. My pain has been returning. I am very much conditioned to my back going out when i lay in a certain position it almost never fails.. i know i have to work on the deconditioning. I also bought his new book im not even half way through. My problem is i feel like my entire sacrum area..mostly in my buttocks there is something really wrong when i have been diagnosed with the MAN (dr. sarno) himself. Ive actually accomplished 100% painfree of sciatica pain down my legs that has been gone since january!! but this muscle/nerve buttock pain is very very hard to shake away completely. any advice i felt i was doing so good at first and now as much as ive ignored that pain its really starting to get me mad.
when i went to one of the meetings and heard all the success stories. I felt why not me? there pain was 100% real like mine...everyones story was different. i just need encouragement here. because ive been debating to write this on here just because i felt if i wrote about my pain im making it become alive. i dont know if anyone knows what i mean by this but just the fact that i write about it makes me mad at it. I need help getting rid of it completely... like the other people i spoke with i need help getting there please any information or encouragement is welcome. |
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| Jena |
Posted - 04/16/2006 : 20:49:26
Thank You Alan for your responce! and encouragement... im going to try and do that the only thing i worry about is when my back goes out that pain stays with me for a good week if not more and when i walk around it improves a little but for some reason pressure fromlaying down on my tailbone causes the extreme paralyzing pain...now i understand it has to be a life long effort but why does it have to be for some people and not for others? are they doing something different? When i spoke to Dr. Sarno i asked him that. I asked him how come some people it seems has to keep up with the reading and always randomly havesome kind of pain every so often. And some the pain never returns. He told me that the brain and its peptide bonds actually release and change the way of thinking and dont ever cause pain again that an actual chemical change occurs. And he feels that everyone can be cured forever that its not just a placebo and the pain comes back he told me if the pain comes back ur not cured yet and i have to keep trying. I dont feel that it has to be a life long struggle he said just reread his treatment page once a month to prevent the pain and you will be forever cured. Some people it just takes longer to heal and thats fine. But im going to try so hard thats its notlife long for me and that my brain makes chemical changes that never change back to the way it was. Its just i hear to many cases where the pain has never returned for people ever again and i will makesure that is me one day . The idea is to heal and preventive medicine. Thats just my thoughts on it~! And alan u are absolutly right about it being tms that it goes away for a lil while and comes back that just proves it is tms. I just have to keep trying its just hard because i am so conditioned to feel pain at certain times...but i have to keep trying thank u for your encouragement and im glad that u are doing so good to! take care! |
| Allan |
Posted - 04/16/2006 : 19:17:48
Jena
Your doubt came back so your pain came back. Happens to all of us.
If the pain went away for any period of time, you should be able to accept the fact that this no pain period is proof positive that it was TMS pain from oxygen deprivation and not from a structural problem. If it were from a structural problem the pain would be more or less continuous and it would not go away for days or weeks at a time.
Get rid of that doubt.
Fred Amir states in his book that you have to challenge the pain by setting goals—walk ten steps one day, walk 15 steps the next day, then walk 20 steps, whatever.
As I understand your posting, when you lie in a certain position the pain comes back. This is a good starting point. Get in this position. Close your eyes. Try to aggravate the pain if possible by moving in a certain way. Keep doing it. Believe it or not the pain will go away. If you can’t aggravate the pain, get into this position deliberately as often as you can. Say “OK TMS pain, give me your best shot.” Challenge the pain any way that you can.
I had severe sciatica, really bad. I set goals to challenge the pain, climbing stairs, hopefully to be achieved in two weeks. It took three days. I couldn’t believe it. How could that horrible debilitating pain go away that fast? Because the pain was from oxygen deprivation and not from a structural problem that is why. The brain realized that the jig is up as Dr. Sarno says.
I still get buttock pain occasionally and I start to wonder if the earlier diagnosis that my pain was caused by spinal stenosis could have been accurate, but then I challenge the pain and the above procedure gets rid of it. Dave is correct, it can be a life long effort.
Allan.
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| Jena |
Posted - 04/16/2006 : 10:55:41
thank you joe and dave for the responces!
thats a good way of looking at it joe about the bad puppy im going to try that!... Also dave yes your right i really want to attend another meeting but i cant miss school again for it. they are always on tuesdays and i have class till late tuesdays so i might have to miss it this time...
yeah i just have to fight the pain and let it know whose boss! thanks for the encouragement joe! Happy Easter by the way! and thanks again |
| Dave |
Posted - 04/16/2006 : 08:48:55
If the pain continues you may want to contact Dr. Sarno and attend another group session. It could help you get back on track.
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| joemccarthy |
Posted - 04/15/2006 : 13:04:42
Jena. Do not worry! Stop beating yourself up. You are fine. Your back does not GO OUT by lying in any position no matter what your head is telling you. Sacral and back pain is exactly the same as your sciatic pain. It is TMS and you can tell it in no uncertain terms to PISS OFF! The jig is up! You know it's TMS; it's the symptom imperative hard at work. TMS is an inside job. Imagine your unconscious as if it were a bad puppy. It pees and poops on the rug and couch and sometimes it needs a swat with a newspaper to pay attention and then cooing and praise when it behaves appropriately. Allowing the unconscious to behave badly i.e. switching pain sites is unacceptable. The TMS symptom imperative will bounce the pain around like a pinball machine if you allow it to. You know what it is and you know you can get rid of it. xoxxo
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