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| Special One |
Posted - 02/03/2006 : 19:28:42
In one section of Saron's book he states that rheumatiod arthritis can strike any joint and is always painful. Soes that mean that it is not a TMS symptom? Since reading that I sometimes think "Is this pain TMS or rheum. arth. Even though I don't think I have rheum. arth. So can anyone help clarify this. I haven't found a way to get over this fear. I am amazed at how susceptible to suggestion I am. For example, if someone were to reply, "I was diagnosed as having rheum. arth. and it went away with TMS work, it's no big deal, don't worry about it," then I would probably be fine. I think it has to do with belief. It's easier to believe in what has happened before.
Thanks for insights... |
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| drziggles |
Posted - 02/10/2006 : 15:17:22
Rheumatoid arthritis is not TMS. However, it can be a difficult disease to diagnose, like other autoimmune diseases. If the classic joint deformities, nodules, and other physical findings are present and the serum test (rheumatoid factor) is positive, that's easy.
However, not everyone fits that category--some people without RA will have a positive blood test, and vice versa. The problem is that many people with various pains (eg TMS) get diagnosed with "seronegative" RA, or lupus, or Lyme, yada yada yada, when they really just have TMS. If your general doctor suspects RA, see a good rheumatologist and have a work up. If your joints are totally normal appearing, but you have various types of pain, this is not likely to be RA. Obviously, you shouldn't take medical advice purely from some jerk on the internet, so see your doctor... :) |
| Jim1999 |
Posted - 02/09/2006 : 22:51:19
You also might want to take a look at this study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=10208146&query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_docsum
Patients with rheumatoid arthritis who did some limited journaling saw a 28% improvement in their symptoms. I have to wonder how much better the patients would get if they did full-blown journaling.
Jim |
| vikki |
Posted - 02/07/2006 : 12:30:35
Two things come to mind:
1. Why not get the blood test for RA? If it comes back negative, then you know it's TMS. (I had this test -- and lots of others -- done before discovering Sarno. All the negative results helped convince me that there wasn't anything wrong with me.)
2. I've read that autoimmunte disorders (RA, MS, etc.) are highly influenced by emotional stress. So even if someone has RA, they could probably do similar psychological work and help their symptoms. |
| 2scoops |
Posted - 02/07/2006 : 11:33:43
Well I believe that Sarno is convinced that our minds have a lot to do with auto immune disorders, such as RA and cancer. I truly believe there is a cure for most diseases, now I said most. Like what Polly said, unfortanetly we will not hear about them because some treatments do not "follow" guidelines. If the docotrs do not know the cause than people's symptoms will continue to exist, and they will remain on whatever pill was prescribed. |
| Stryder |
Posted - 02/07/2006 : 11:09:28
quote:
Originally posted by PeterMcKay
rheumatiod arthritis is most certainly not TMS and is always painful. Sadly, there is no cure
I'm just thinking out loud here...
Since RA is a faulty autoimmune response, it would be interesting to see 100, 200 years from now what is truly causing the response. Even if its a chemical problem, ultimately the brain is responsible for regulating/generating all the chemicals in our body.
I read about a theory recently that our bodies regularly produce cancer cells that are simply gobbled up by the immune systems. People that contract tumors are proposed to have a faulty autoimmune response that fails to due its job.
So it would be interesting to see if RA and TMS have some root relationship when the RA mystery is finally untangled.
-Stryder |
| 2scoops |
Posted - 02/07/2006 : 10:58:41
Very well put Polly, words of wisdom. |
| polly |
Posted - 02/07/2006 : 10:49:34
I have RA. I also have TMS. I am positive that the TMS work helps me with the RA.
There is a very strong connection with the mind and body that has gone unrecognized. Sarno is just at the beginning. I truly believe that we can allieviate and cure far more than the medical community is willing to admit. Most. if not all. of the medical community calls Sarno a quack. I know he's a very brave genius. It's not what he does for a patient, it's what he teaches a patient to do for themself.
When you go to a doctor today, you're visiting the doctor, the health insurance company and the malpractice insucrance underwriter. The diagnosis is coming from those three. The treatment is too.
My experience with Sarno empowers ME to get to the roots of the diagnosis and treatment...something most doctors, health and malpractice insurance companies really don't like. This tribunal would have me in a wheelchair. I'm on my way to exercise now and I walk without any assistance and I'm getting stronger all the time.
Polly |
| JoeW |
Posted - 02/06/2006 : 15:55:18
quote:
Originally posted by PeterMcKay
rheumatiod arthritis is most certainly not TMS and is always painful. Sadly, there is no cure
I recommend reading Norman Cousins' book mentioned above. |
| n/a |
Posted - 02/04/2006 : 11:20:50
rheumatiod arthritis is most certainly not TMS and is always painful. Sadly, there is no cure |
| Curiosity18 |
Posted - 02/04/2006 : 11:13:05
Special One,
Rheumatoid arthritis is in the same family of autoimmune illnesses as lupus, scleroderma, and ankylosing spondylitis. My understanding is that Dr. Sarno does not consider these to be TMS (although he does list autoimmune conditions as possibly having emotional factors). Usually a series of blood tests, combined with an examination from an internist or rheumatologist can determine whether someone may have these conditions. I believe that with rheumatoid arthritis however, the joints are extremely painful, feel hot, and are often swollen. In my early TMS days, long before I knew about Sarno's work I also wondered if I had RA. I would imagine that many folks (including myself) who have been told they have fibromyalgia have had RA ruled out.
I have also known of individuals who have healed themselves of these autoimmune conditions through the use of mind-body techniques, dietary changes and major lifestyle changes.
Curiosity |
| HilaryN |
Posted - 02/04/2006 : 05:25:23
I couldn't find the bit that you referred to, but when I looked up "rheumatoid arthritis" in "The MindBody Prescription", I found the following:
"In his book Anatomy of an Illness, Norman Cousins described his experience with rheumatoid arthritis, a classic autoimmune disorder. He was getting progressively worse when he decided to intervene on his own behalf, so to speak. He recalled the work of Walter B. Cannon on the wisdom of the body and particularly the observations of Hans Selye that emotional factors such as frustration or suppressed rage could lead to adrenal exhaustion, which, we know from modern research, can markedly impair immune function. Cousins cured himself through the application of what he called "positive emotions," to counteract the effect of "negative emotions." He also credited high doses of Vitamin C for his recovery, but admitted that this might have been the result of a placebo effect."
(Chapter 8.)
Hilary N |
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