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| icelikeaninja |
Posted - 12/18/2005 : 16:25:21
Does anyone notice besides pain changing places and starting in new places the quality of pain?
I notice that since this started my pains go from sharp,dull, to pressure like then to hardly anything and then to twitchy? Basically in the same places.
This has been happening to me since tms hit me bad.
BTW my mind tried to veer my off today because I believe I am in a good stage regarding the TMS. It wanted me to think I had some wierd problem that would require an operation but I just told it to shut up and rationalized what Sarno and others have told me.
Thanks all!
Danny |
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| kdw |
Posted - 12/30/2005 : 11:21:19
Icelikeaninja - You may need to resume exercise gradually. Doing too much, too soon could cause your brain to set off a cycle of pain that will impede your progress and cause you to doubt that you have TMS. After months of trying this and having to back off, I finally made a list of all the things I wanted to do physically, rating them from easiest to most difficult, based on deconditioning and/or fear. I started with the "easiest" things first, but even those could not be obtained the first time out. So I thought of them as being at the top of a big hill, and I had to figure out the route I would need to take to get to them. This often included many steps that, without TMS, I would not have to take. Example: I figured biking would give my brain less of an opportunity to cause pain than running would, so biking was one of my first goals. However, I knew from past experience that I couldn't just get on a bike and go. I had to start by simply getting on the bike and rotating the pedals slowly for three minutes the first time. I did that twice and on the third workout upped the time to five minutes. After doing that twice, I increased to seven, then ten, fifteen and so on. After only a few weeks, I could bike for as fast and as long as I wanted. Weights are the same way. Start with a pathetically light weight if you have to and increase it (very minimally) every third workout. Soon, your confidence in your abilities will grow and you will reach your goals.
Another thing I did (and am still doing) sounds really silly, but it makes a huge difference. After each workout, and after each set on weight workouts, I tell myself - out loud - how well I'm doing. That was beautifully done, I'll say, even going so far as to pat myself on the back at times. When I first started working out again, I would feel frustrated the whole time because I was incapable of doing what I once did. This was NOT productive, and often led to negative thinking, self criticism and more TMS pain. Saying these things to myself, even if I feet foolish, makes everything flow. I think it's important that we drop our expectations of ourselves and "empty our cups," so to speak. We can start at the beginning. It's OK that we're not perfect (right now :)
For what it's worth, I think all of the reasons you mentioned are good reasons to work out. I tell my brain that it's not going to stop me from being who I am, and that means I WILL work out. I think it IS important, however, to tell yourself over and over again that working out will not hurt you. The only reason you're taking it slow is to keep your brain from taking advantage of you. I think of my "gradual" approach as my way of tricking my brain. By the time it figures out what happened, I have already accomplished my goal and have moved on.
Hope this helps. Good luck. |
| icelikeaninja |
Posted - 12/29/2005 : 11:03:38
ok so now its really been messin with my head well physically where it stays moves around stays and moves around to diffrent places but I know it is just tms.
I cant believe how much progress I have made after fully accepting the diagnosis on a concious level. I cant wait to go back to the gym hardcore but now I will go only twice a week so my mind doesnt make my body go crazy.
Does anyone have any info on how I should approach the gym? Should I do a 10 minute cardio session then a 20 minute work out? I use to lift wieghts for 45 minutes and do cardio for 30.
Obviously it took me a while to be able to do that with no problem but now it is a year later and iam totally lost and not as confident as I was in regards to wieghts and appearance.
I am joining a diffrent gym because I had so many friends in my regular one and it would be wierd to see them after a year where I hardly have anymore muscle mass.
I also think a perfectionist drive came thru via bodybuilding because I never though I had the best body and I was always competing with myself and those around me who lifted weights around the same time as me.
I never felt good enough and now that I look at pics of me then I see WHOA WHAT THE HELL is wrong with me I was in great shape well above average for societys standards and I still thought I was no good.
I use to work out to get out my frustration but I also dont no how to do it now that I can journal and read the sarno book.
So the question is do I work out to look good? Feel good? To get out rage? TO be healthy?
I will admit I just wanted to get as big as possible with the lowest amount of bodyfat. I didnt really care about health it was just a benefit. I just wanted to look good for my own sake and be able to marathon and do anything pysically I wanted.
Thanks all you have been a great help
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| wrldtrv |
Posted - 12/28/2005 : 20:43:52
Talk about changing forms! For the past few years I have had a variety of aches and pains, most lasting a few months and then moving on to something else. I had mid-back pain a couple of years ago. The doc said it was the rhomboid muscle and sent me to physical therapy. After a few months that went away and I haven't had a whiff of it despite not doing any of the exercises since. Then, there was the rotator cuff problem. Again, physical therapy for several months and it's gone. Then, my recent bout of MS-like symptoms that are also about gone. The thing about all of these experiences, is that each time there is the tendency to think this problem is a REAL physical problem, an injury. Then going on to treat it as such surely makes it worse, prolongs it.
On a related topic, here is my chiropractic story. I think it really illustrates the nature of mind/body or TMS problems. Many years ago I was plagued by chronic and severe back pain. My insurance covered chiropractic so I started going on a regular basis for about the next ten years. All during that period I had back pain, though not as severe as initially. It was only after my insurance no longer covered chiropractic and I stopped going that my back pain disappeared completely! With the exception of the very brief period of midback pain I mentioned earlier, my back has been perfect.
As a side note. At one point during that ten-year period I happened to check in with an orthopedist to verify that all the abnormalities that the chiropracters had always told me I had existed. I had an x-ray and the orthopedist said my back was "absolutely normal". I said, "Well, the chiro said..." and he interupted me with, "You don't even want to know what I think of chiropracters." And that has been my opinion too for many years. Does anyone else have a chiro story? |
| Baseball65 |
Posted - 12/28/2005 : 11:02:09
Yeah...that was one of the physical identifications in 'Healing Back Pain' that I identified with right away.The Pain that brought me to the brink,so to speak,was back pain...however,during the year and a half I went through the 'system' it changed in characteristic all of the time.It started as numbness and weakness in my left leg,turned into "ohmygodkillmenow" lower back spasms,and then settled in for a long stretch as 'broken glass inside of my left leg'.Two months before the surgery,it would start in the left in the morning,almost vanish at lunch,and then go into the right for the evening.I had no herniation on that side?????
In fact,by the time I had my surgery,my back proper had very little pain at all..it was mostly sharp stabbing from the thigh down.
Right after my pain vanished and I went back to work,my knee went out (sic)...I found it mildly humorous in spite of the pain.Than I had a long stretch with nothing....,than my 'shoulder' tore (sic) than my 'upper back' than the 'neck'...it's like a merry go round.
The only one that fooled me was the shoulder which I accidentally took serious for about a month.When I realized it was TMS it evaporated like a puddle.
That's always a good sign...means the TMS is on the run |
| ucreger |
Posted - 12/28/2005 : 10:20:34
Thanks for your account of changing pains. I am relatively new (3 weeks) to the TMS theory and have accepted it. The thing that has puzzled me is that the pain is horrible in the morning. The first few steps feel like my back is in spasm... my two young children (4 and 2) have noticed this as well. really disheartening when you can't get you 2 yearold out of her crib until the pain subsides and then do so in pain. Tomorrow I will get her up as soon as she calls... no more waiting fotr the pain to subside, this will not stop me.
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| icelikeaninja |
Posted - 12/28/2005 : 08:51:25
Hey all so here is a little update.
Now my pains seem to come on in the evening. It really gets dull and diffuse during the day but it gets bad esp when I wake up. After 20 mins or so it gets alot better.
I use to be able to tell when I would get bad flares but now I can somehow fend them off. I had all the makings this morning of a bad flare but I fend it off some how and relized its only TMS. Basically I was sleeping at my girlfriends house and her cat always jumps on me in the middle of the night, probably 10 or so times and woke me up each time. I had to lock the cat out of the room but Iam pretty sure this made the tms worst. I can't beleive trivial stuff like this can really F*** you up.
Of course i feel new symptoms sometimes here and there but now they stick to one place and move to front and back and slighty lower region then it started in.
I have been doing this hardcore for 2 weeks a little more now after relizing it was tms in October I had to get a few things done before I could fully accept it.
Its funny my mom is yelling at me for stoping pysical therapy but I feel a hell of alot better not going and journaling and seeing the therapist.
Anyway hope you all had a tms free holiday and continue to do so. |
| n/a |
Posted - 12/19/2005 : 08:54:46
Yes, this happens to me all the time. As stated, this is a classic example of what TMS does. Always trying to throw you off guard. I bet almost every single prson on this board faces this. |
| gioux |
Posted - 12/18/2005 : 23:35:39
Pain switching places and types is classic TMS in my opinion. I have noticed it more, paradoxically, as I have gotten better at recognizing and dealing wth the pain for what it is. It's as if the mind is trying the next thing, trying to take it up a notch. So then you have to too. If only it were so easy....good luck and you can be sure it is a common symptom - you read about it a lot on the forum. |
| Becca |
Posted - 12/18/2005 : 17:34:04
I also have the same type of symptom patterns. Sometimes it burns, sometimes it stabs, sometime there is not much pain but a ton of tension. The only variability I get with location is sometimes the left shoulder bothers me more than the right and vice versa-R |
| rage |
Posted - 12/18/2005 : 17:03:18
I have exactly the same symptoms it changes from one place to the other very seldom but the quality is changing from pain to twitching and so on |
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