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| cheeryquery |
Posted - 12/10/2005 : 16:27:37
Hi. I posted here a couple of months ago and got some great help from Dave and others. My problem was plantar fasciitis (foot pain) and a trip to Turkey/Israel which would involve lots of walking. Just wanted to report that the pain was considerable but knowing I didn't have to take it seriously made all the difference. I had a really good time.
Now for the recent news: returning home, I decided to quit a bunch of meds and go on insulin for my diabetes. Many symptoms have improved including swollen legs and ankles, muscle cramps (BAD ones), and so on.
I am starting to wonder how far this "narcissistic rage" goes. For example, I used to overeat to stuff down feelings of depression. Maybe insulin resistance, leading to diabetes, was the result and could be treated with the same Sarno method. I won't quit taking insulin, of course, but I'm going to start telling those cells to open up and process that sugar!! Sounds weird but why not? -- I wouldn't have believed the symptoms such as back pain, etc. that can disappear when you realize they are not "real".
One last thing: I used to wake up several times a night with leg and foot cramps. Focusing on the cramp and saying (yelling!) "Stop it!" always worked beautifully and saved me hours of agony. I have shared this with a few friends. Most won't even try it but some say it works great for them, too  |
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| HilaryN |
Posted - 12/12/2005 : 00:58:17
Thanks. (I read it a couple of years ago, but don't remember much, so I'll dig it out and read again.)
Hilary N |
| Baseball65 |
Posted - 12/11/2005 : 13:59:44
Louise Hay's "You can heal your life"
I use it in conjunction with HBP as my 'tune up' manual.
-piggy
The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up. |
| HilaryN |
Posted - 12/11/2005 : 12:09:05
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The 'accident' stuff Laura speaks of comes from the same text that my other strategies come from,so I am quite familiar with it.It is eerily succinct,although it has no medical model like Sarno gives us.I use it a LOT.
What text? Could you tell me more, or point me to a post? I tried searching on here on "accident" but there are 8 pages so it'll take me a while to get through them.
Hilary N |
| Baseball65 |
Posted - 12/11/2005 : 10:58:52
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Originally posted by HilaryN
Are you saying that because both of you came down with the cough at the same time you think it wasn’t TMS? I think, as with colds, there is an external factor which can cause illnesses – but perhaps emotions play a part in determining whether our body is weakened enough to succumb to them.
No..I'm just saying that I tried to use my otherwise effective TMS skills and they didn't work..the ONLY time in a year.
I can think of a bunch of factors that might have made us both ill simultaneoulsy....I had just quit working for a contractor that HE(My best friend PAT) had hooked me up with...One result of my quitting was a paycheck dispute.As a result of the contractors lack of integrity with my last paycheck PAT also quit,though he wasn't the one with the initial 'problem'
The Job we became ill on was the very first job we did in our own 'new' business as partners...but alone with very few connections for more work.
Pat could have been unconsciously very angry with me for 'rocking the boat' and forcing him into a moral dilemma.I could have been subconsciouly 'terrified' as I was in a new city without a steady job for the first time since I'd moved here.
That was 9 months ago...Pat still has found NO steady gig,whilst I have a really good paying,stable job with a BIG company and a cool Boss.For the sake of "integrity" Pat lost his bread and butter job,regardless of how unfair the working conditions,it represented a form of security...I stole that from him,albeit vicariously.
The 'accident' stuff Laura speaks of comes from the same text that my other strategies come from,so I am quite familiar with it.It is eerily succinct,although it has no medical model like Sarno gives us.I use it a LOT.
-piggy
The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up. |
| HilaryN |
Posted - 12/11/2005 : 10:12:57
I was going to add to my previous post: even if a condition can’t be got rid of by trying to focus on emotions, I still think it could be TMS (fanatic or what?!  ). It may just be that the emotions are too deeply locked away.
Although in principle I believe anything could be TMS, I’m not turning my back on conventional medicine. If, for example, an infection got beyond a certain stage (i.e. painful), I’d be hot-footing it down to the doctor for antibiotics.
Are you saying that because both of you came down with the cough at the same time you think it wasn’t TMS? I think, as with colds, there is an external factor which can cause illnesses – but perhaps emotions play a part in determining whether our body is weakened enough to succumb to them.
Somebody here (Laura?) put forward the idea that emotions might play a role in accidents. It’s a thought which had occurred to me, too.
All of this can only be a belief – it can’t be proved objectively. But then again I’m a bit of a sceptic when it comes to “objectivity” – I’m not sure there is such a thing. The main thing is, if it works for us, or seems to, we may as well stick with it.
Hilary N |
| Baseball65 |
Posted - 12/11/2005 : 08:17:01
@Hilary...I've only had 1 illness where I treated it like TMS and it wasn't. My work partner and I were working on an oooollllddd house out in the sticks. On day 2 of the job we were painting in the attic that had been vacated for years. on Day 3 we both came down with a horrible cough...that lasted weeks and weeks.He's a granola eating tree hugger,I'm a pirate.
Since I had stayed well all winter using 'mind cures' I once again began to think of every possible thing it could be...to no avail.We both got sicker and sicker...probably woke up some horrible bacteria in that attic.However...I got well about 3 weeks before he did.
Now..I did have that tooth deal going on back then and was on a course of anti-biotics for the tooth infection..the fact that anti-biotics helped might confirm it bacterial....either way,I just used it to illuminate the fact that periodically somethings aren't,but it hasn't ever hurt me assuming everything IS.
There were 10 other beginnings of stuff that never stuck because I 'TMS'ed them away.
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| HilaryN |
Posted - 12/11/2005 : 06:09:27
I’m in total agreement with both of you. I think I’m a TMS fanatic, but, like you, I think, well, logically, why should some conditions be TMS and others not?
If the mind is trying to suppress emotions it requires “resources” of some kind, perhaps chemical resources. So it will get those resources from somewhere in the body and perhaps upset the balance. If there is a weak point in the body and it is deprived of the necessary resources, then a “physical” condition may result. (That’s my simplistic explanation because I can’t quite get my head around Sarno’s technical explanation, although it has it’s merits, too.)
I, too, get a host of minor ailments. In my opinion that indicates that still I need to tackle the emotions that are the root cause – I’m such a coward in that area, but I’ll do it in my own time.
Minor toothache for which the dentist can find no reason (I think it switches sides of the mouth, too.)
Colds: as soon as I get a hint of a sore throat, I tell it where to go. Obviously can’t tell whether it’s just coincidence or not. But they say colds/flu happen as a result of reduced immunity. Why shouldn’t repressed emotions contribute to that?
Starting 12 months ago I had a series of abscesses in the space of 12 months – 2 in my legs and something very similar in my foot. Doctors don’t know what causes these. I’d never had them before. By the 2nd and 3rd ones I decided it was TMS but was too busy tackling my RSI and didn’t have energy to tackle these, so took antibiotics. Now (RSI free), as soon as a pimple starts, I tell it where to go…
Of course, I would never advise anyone to stop taking medication or go against their doctor’s advice – at least not if there is danger of permanent damage or death - and I think you are taking a very sensible approach, cheeryquery.
There have been cases of people on this forum who have decided that their condition is not TMS. But I think there is no harm in trying the TMS approach even while still continuing the necessary medication. What is there to lose?
Hilary N |
| Baseball65 |
Posted - 12/10/2005 : 18:18:21
There is SO much stuff that this can encompass it astounds me.After my back healed,I still went about the medical system for 'purely physical' things like the chronic ear infections I got,chronic respiratory infections(bronchitis in particular)
I used to say stuff to the Md when they'd AGAIN find a eustacian tube infection...like "Yeah...I get this like 3 times a year" and I did.
I always used to get 'swollen glands' and such...the usual stuff that everybody gets,right??
Well...that was right around the time I discovered this forum.I started doing My OWN statistical research,and even the cured TMSers seemed to have a lot of other 'physical' stuff.
I read Louise Hays "You can heal your life"...I would have laughed my ass OFF IF YOU HAD SHOWN ME THAT BOOK at some time in the past.I started reading it,and everytime I had an 'issue' starting,I'd remember the thought she associates with it.Perhaps it's just a placebo,but damned if I haven't been sick but ONCE in the last 18 months...and I smoke,eat horribly,don't excercise(well...I am a manual laborer so???)
In fact,the only medical treatment I've needed all year was for a horrible tooth problem...but it was really odd...the pain was never ever consistent and the Dr. who root canaled it hasn't even finished capping it...I've chewed on it for months without the cap painfree,but when he wopuld put it in it would hurt...some of the time.
The tooth thing started while I was in a horrible situation with my wife over her sisters drunkenness and was in a rage from HELL!!
Hmmmmm...
Nothing but anecdotal evidence.
However...when people speak of colds and Flu's and such nowadays I just say "Oh...I don't get those" and guess what?? I haven't
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