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vegomatic Posted - 12/02/2005 : 20:15:07
I have been examined by Dr. Sarno personally and have rid myself of back pain, headaches, allergies etc. I am also seeing one of Sarno's psychologists in conjunction with my psychiatrist to finally get weened off antidepressants I've been on for 10 years. I've had OCD, anxiety and depression for a long time. I've been dealing with the OCD, anxiety and depression the same way I dealt with physical pain and so far I've been doing great.

However I do have a question that's been gnawing at me recently. I had an argument with a friend of mine where I said that you can't hurt your back lifting something "wrong." My friend has been a long time sufferer of back pain. I have been purposefully lifting objects the "wrong way" for a while (bending my back and not my knees)and have been pain free.

However my friend brought up that you can pull a muscle in your back if you lift something too heavy and that will bring about back pain. Is this possible? Can you pull a muscle in your back? If you can, how would you differentiate between a pulled muscle and TMS? How about pulling a muscle in your leg, arm or neck? I have never heard of this and am wondering if anyone has any insight.

This is a great board and keep up the good work.
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vegomatic Posted - 12/09/2005 : 19:13:47
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Wow 1000 just to see him once? Did you find the psychotherapy worked? I'm not sure it would work on me since there's nothing out of the ordinary that has gone on in my life (boring, I guess).
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It's $1000 for a checkup and a talk to make sure what you have is TMS. It also covers attendance to his lecture as well as unlimited group meetings with him and other patients. I've heard of people who became pain free after only reading his book but I guess I needed reassurance from him that what I had was TMS.

The therapy is usually suggested if your TMS is not going away. It is used as a tool to try to get to the root of TMS and to ultimately get rid of it.

Since, I'm for the most part, rid of TMS, I'm using psychotherapy mainly to monitor my progress with getting off my antidepressant medication. I see Sarno's therapist once a month. I speak to my psychiatrist, who prescribes my meds, over the phone once a month for a few minutes to let him know about my progress and he determines whether or not to lower the meds. So far, the meds have decreased little by little after each month so I'm on the right track. I can't wait to get off these damn pills. It's been 10 years and I've had it. Before discovering Sarno, I thought I would be on the medications forever.

As I stated before, my psychiatrist does not agree with Sarno's theories (even though knows very little about them) so we agreed that I see a therapist who agrees with me. That's how I got hooked up with one of Sarno's therapists.

I believe the right psychotherapy, is very beneficial to people who are receptive to it. So yes, I think psychotherapy works but you only get back what you put into it. And NOBODY'S life is boring and out of the ordinary. Especially people with TMS
brandy76 Posted - 12/04/2005 : 09:36:36
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Originally posted by vegomatic

He's in New York City but he only accepts patients from the tri-state area.

Unfortunately he is not covered by insurance. It will cost you $1000.

I was referred to a psychotherapist through Sarno. The sessions are not covered and will cost around $150 per session.

Since my psychiatrist who I've been seeing on and off for ten years does not buy into Sarno's theories even with proof of my success, it's nice to speak to someone on the same wave length as you.


Wow 1000 just to see him once? Did you find the psychotherapy worked? I'm not sure it would work on me since there's nothing out of the ordinary that has gone on in my life (boring, I guess).
vegomatic Posted - 12/03/2005 : 11:12:59
He's in New York City but he only accepts patients from the tri-state area.

Unfortunately he is not covered by insurance. It will cost you $1000.

I was referred to a psychotherapist through Sarno. The sessions are not covered and will cost around $150 per session.

Since my psychiatrist who I've been seeing on and off for ten years does not buy into Sarno's theories even with proof of my success, it's nice to speak to someone on the same wave length as you.
brandy76 Posted - 12/03/2005 : 10:19:05
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Originally posted by vegomatic

I have been examined by Dr. Sarno personally


I didn't know he had a practice, where is he located? And does he accept medical insurance?
Thanks
brandy76 Posted - 12/03/2005 : 10:17:52
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Originally posted by vegomatic

I have been examined by Dr. Sarno personally


I didn't know he has a practice, where is he located? And does he also do the psychotherapy part of it?
vegomatic Posted - 12/03/2005 : 10:15:45
Thanks everyone!
n/a Posted - 12/03/2005 : 09:27:26
You may pull a muscle lifting something, but the pain goes away after a few days. With TMS the pain remains. Dr. Sarno makes the point very strongly in his lecture video that if you can lift something it is not too heavy for you too lift. The back is very strong and not weak as the medical profession would tell you. Dr. Sarno heinself, now 83, says he takes no precautions when lifting anything and most of these admonitions are just based on myth.
Becca Posted - 12/03/2005 : 06:33:50
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I think it is good to be somewhat caustions with lifting. Lifting could definitely strain something and cause pain. If it happens to a TMS sugfferer it would give the mind the opportunity to jump on the injury and make it last. Sprains and strains heal in a few weeks. TMS could turn it into a chronic problem. The brain would love to play on the fear and worry brought about by the strain.-R
wrldtrv Posted - 12/02/2005 : 22:33:52
Not everything is TMS. Sometimes a pulled muscle is only a pulled muscle. Of course you can injure yourself if you lift something too heavy in the wrong position. Why do it intentionally? On the other hand, it's not good to be paranoid about every move either. Commonsense. Balance. That's the key.

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