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windy Posted - 10/24/2005 : 10:14:12
This is unbelievable. I'm totally sabotaging my own efforts to improve. I'm not even following the Sarno protocol yet whiny that my tms isn't getting better. I know from past experience that dedication does reap results. Why on earth am I so ambivalent in my efforts now?
btw, does anyone think high blood pressure may be a sign of tms? I'd think repressed rage would cause blood pressure to rise.
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ralphyde Posted - 10/24/2005 : 15:22:04
Windy,
There is a book I have read called, "Healing Hypertension, A Revolutionary New Approach," by Dr. Samuel J. Mann, MD of the Hypertension Center of The New York Presbyterian Hospital - Cornell Medical Center.

It even has a quote by Dr. Sarno on the cover, saying: "Dr. Mann's pioneering book is a precious gift to the millions who suffer with hypertension."

He references Dr. Sarno in three places, and on page 117 he says, "I believe back pain and hypertension share certain similarities. Both are linked to hidden emotions in some people. And, in both conditions, when hidden emotions are contributory, a shift in awareness of them can produce rapid improvement."

On page 156, he says: "This rapid effect resembles very closely the dramatic improvement that John Sarno has noted in some people with back pain once they realize there are hiding emotions from themselves."

He does stress that it is the hidden emotions that contribute to HBP, not the ones we are aware of.

I have also achieved significant relief from HBP by fasting. See "Fasting and Eating for Health: A Medical Doctor's Program for Conquering Disease," by Joel Fuhrman, MD. A ten-day pure-water fast brought my own blood pressure down from 165 100 to 120 65, and it stayed that low for five months until a stressful time in my marriage. This doctor believes cardiovascular disease (as well as asthma, arthritis, and other autoimmune diseases) is reversible through fasting.

Best, Ralph


JohnD Posted - 10/24/2005 : 14:56:41
sarno said high blood pressure may have a psychological component but is not TMS because it is not something we can feel.
miehnesor Posted - 10/24/2005 : 12:51:28
quote:
Originally posted by windy

btw, does anyone think high blood pressure may be a sign of tms? I'd think repressed rage would cause blood pressure to rise.



Yes- in my case I have seen my blood pressure come down as a result of releasing the repressed rage. I wonder how many people out there on high blood pressure medication really are suffering from repressed rage and don't know it.

Also Author Janov reports dramatic reductions in blood pressure from patients in his primal therapy center in Los Angeles (those that are hypertensive before therapy). His book "The New Primal Scream" reports the details.
art Posted - 10/24/2005 : 12:00:55
Hi Windy,

Have you explored secondary gain issues? In other words, how does it advantage you to be in pain/ill...

ladyblue Posted - 10/24/2005 : 11:24:44
Hi Windy,

I understand what you're saying as I've found myself doing things that I know full well go against what I'm trying to achieve.

I can recall lecturing myself on various areas of my life, knowing that I'm not doing what's best for me but ...doing it anyway!

The strange thing is Windy, if you think of someone smoking for example, they know it's bad for them but they continue, they continue because they're addicted, it's become a way of life and the thought of not smoking leaves an enormous gap. It's also a habit and habits we all know are hard to break, all in all it's a massive change.

I personally, and I know this sounds a little weird, but I'm being totally honest, think that leaving a world of pain entails massive change too, and it can be frightening. I'm having to muster all the courage I can to go through this journey simply because I've been in pain so long I don't know how to conduct a life without it.

Being in pain has, over the years, brought into my life many habits, such as the way I sleep, the way I walk, my routine on getting up, the amount of pillows I have, taking painkillers etc etc..

Now, having discovered TMS, I have to disgard not only those habits but also my old way of thinking, in essence I have to reprogramme my whole attitude and yes, I've had moments where it's felt "safer" to stay with what I know.

I'm taking it one day at a time, no, one moment at a time Windy and it's definately helping. I'm replacing feelings of anxiety about change with feelings of excitement and with every thing that I achieve, no matter how small, I make sure that I take the time out to congratulate myself.

Today I climbed a small ladder to do some painting, when I'd done it I sat down with a Cappucino, put on one of my favorite tracks and had a good sing, ok...the neighbours may not have been too impressed but...lol..I don't care!

I hope that my perspective may help Windy.

All the best...Jane

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