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| Eket |
Posted - 07/30/2004 : 12:19:54
I'm a new member and this is sort of my introduction. I've only known about TMS and Dr. Sarno for about 2 weeks now. I had been suffering from hand pain (Diagnosed as RSI )but nothing was ever physically wrong with me on X-ray and stuff like that, my Chiropractor couldn't find anything specifically wrong with me other then some strained muscles and a minor dislocation in the back, but he said they are not reasons for you pain. So, i started searching and found out about tms and the like.
My pain almost immediately dissapeared after reading about it and after the reading the book, quite a miracle. It really applied well to me because i'm the type of person who never deals with his emotions and just sucks it all in, and not just my own problems because i'm always doing my best to help others solve their problems (I wonder what type of personality that makes me, i find myself hard to place in a certain category.). The fear seems to take longer though, although i have resumed my normal activities i still fear it sometimes, fear of the pain returning. But there is a lot more going on in my life at the moment that seem to be apparent reasons for the pain to come back, and it has slightly begun acting up again today.
I was wondering what this means, i guess i must be on to something. The mind is trying harder to make me forget the emotions, at least that's what i think.
Well, I hope someone can help me here, and i hope to learn from helping others with my findings. But i am basically a noob on it all.
Nice to meet you all, |
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| Dave |
Posted - 08/03/2004 : 15:41:35
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Originally posted by Eket
Well, Dave i did talk about it for the first time ever with my best friend. And i thought i was dealing with it, but the pain has actually gotten intense after that.
Actually it is a good sign. Your mind is fighting your attempt to feel those emotions.
Talking about it is one thing; feeling it is quite another. Sarno often feels that psychotherapy is a required part of treatment, especially in cases involving childhood trauma. |
| Eket |
Posted - 08/03/2004 : 13:48:16
Well, Dave i did talk about it for the first time ever with my best friend. And i thought i was dealing with it, but the pain has actually gotten intense after that. even though it felt good talking about it after so long... so it's really confusing to me now, there must still be more there that build up rage... |
| Dave |
Posted - 08/03/2004 : 11:45:06
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Originally posted by Eket
...a childhoor Trauma of mine (which i'd rather not talk about here, but perhaps that is just another form of repression... because it really is that bad for me, just thinking about it almost makes me cry)...
Examine what you wrote. "Thinking" about it "almost" makes me cry.
If you haven't already had professional therapy to open up and discuss this issue, I think you should strongly consider it. Holding things inside perpetuates TMS. |
| Eket |
Posted - 08/03/2004 : 04:37:58
Thanks for your replies so far. In the time between this post and my last i had been doing several personality tests to figure out what kind i am and what could possibly cause symptons, i also figured out a childhoor Trauma of mine (which i'd rather not talk about here, but perhaps that is just another form of repression... because it really is that bad for me, just thinking about it almost makes me cry)
in any case the test i took showed me that i was a Type 5 an Investigator type, and their main fear is to be useless and incapable and very isolated which fits me quite well.
I also scored high on type 2 the helper type, who just wants to be loved and accepted and has a lot of properties that the "goodist" type described by Sarno has. This all add to my rage internally, i've figured out that much.
But as of today the pain has become quite severe again and i'm getting tired of it and depressed. I'm guessing my mind knows that i'll get depressions over me and anxiety whenever the pain returns so it's obvious why he would go overboard this time and hurt me much more. This is just so hard to deal with, that is the one thing i don't get i've figured out so much of my internal rage and where it could be coming from. But why do i still have pain now... sure there is a lot of pressure in my life now but half of those things i can't do a dang thing about and the things i can do something about i'm already working on... |
| Susie |
Posted - 08/01/2004 : 11:08:57
Hi eket--I journaled alot like you are doing ,looking for the exact rage provoking incident that caused my situation. I have worked with Sarno's theory now since March and I feel so much better that I can hardly believe it. I almost think that the journaling doesn't help because you find the exact reason for rage but that it's benefit comes from the exercise of it that causes you to think psychological. I initially became desperate to find the exact cause of my demise so I could cure myself as soon as possible. It didn't work that way for me. I felt better immediately as I read the book, but I had a slow tug of war with tms to get well. I find that certain stresses in my life precipatate the symptoms. Fear is also a very large component. Fear of something terribly wrong with you, fear of returning pain, fear of loss of function, etc. Once I began to improve, the fear pretty much subsided. Logic told me I was ok and since I had functioned up to now, I would continue to function. Just try to be patient. It's not an overnight process. Keep exercising the mental process and you will feel better physically. You are on the right track. My symptoms reoccur from time to time but I am getting better at containing them. I just try to think about what is bothering me and can usually come up with an answer in about 20 seconds. We are reconditioning ourselves and it just takes time. Good luck to you. |
| Allan |
Posted - 07/30/2004 : 15:17:20
I suggest that you read Dr. Sarno's book continually for at least a month. Each time that you finish, start over again.
The idea is to convince your subconscious that the pain, while very real and sometimes severe, is harmless and emotionally induced.
Go back go the TMS forum home page. Knowledge (completely understanding what Dr. Sarno is telling you) is the penicillin that will cure you. |
| Eket |
Posted - 07/30/2004 : 14:07:24
Wow, thanks for the quick reply. I had figured it would take a while for the treatment to succeed. I recently re-read the book again, because information seems to be an important tool.
I've started making a list of all that bothers me, or at least adds to my rage and i try to take at least half an hour each day journaling through all these emotions, they often go away then. But as of today i just felt the pain returning slightly. Man our minds are really **** in their way of doing things, this is just so not logical.
I will continue to attempt to work on this each day, and try to not to slack off working on it. I was wondering if anyone here had some more advice, more you can do when you get pain again. You have to try and forget about the pain and focus on the rage but i can't seem to do that, it's like it's always there in some corner of my mind (something that keeps telling me you're in pain, you're in pain, you're in pain........ ) |
| Dave |
Posted - 07/30/2004 : 12:41:50
Welcome to the forum.
Quick relief upon reading the book is common. However, in most people, that relief is short lived. You should expect the pain to return. However, don't let it frustrate you.
You are right in that your mind is going to fight you tooth and nail. You have to be steadfast and think long term. The more you explore your repressed emotions, the harder your mind will try to distract you.
I suggest you follow the treatment suggestions in Dr. Sarno's book, and take a long-term view. It will probably take weeks or months for you to get lasting relief. During that time you may be hit with worse symptoms than before, or new symptoms you have never experienced. Just keep up the work, every day, and eventually you will have success. |
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