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| vlada |
Posted - 09/26/2005 : 05:14:20
Hi,
Besides having low back/buttock pain I also have some other pelvic pain. I would rather not elaborate on specifics but I am 100% confident that the pain is related to ischemia of the somatic nerves in the region caused by TMS. I have identified all the major emotional aspects, state of mind and everything is making a lot sense looking back now.
However, I have one major distraction to my recovery. While I was treated conservatively for pelvic pain I was told that there is a simple surgical procedure with 95% success rate involving removal of somatic nerves in question, in case everything else fails. I have identified this indoctrination as a powerful weight that I have to somehow ignore, unlearn and forget about.
I would like to hear tips from people who were in similar situation. You were told that there is a very successful surgical procedure and you were able to ignore it, pursue TMS treatment and recover. If anyone else has some input I would be grateful. I think that this is a major stumbling point for many others. Hopefully we can address it here with a lively discussion.
Be well,
Vladimir |
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| pault |
Posted - 10/01/2005 : 04:58:18
vlada ,good for you,keep up the good work! Paul. |
| vlada |
Posted - 09/28/2005 : 09:57:19
I canceled paravertebral nerve block (that would determine if I am a good candidate for the surgery) and there is no turning back for me now. You were right about the disclaimer. I did not even think about it. If this block is such a routine why did I have to sign a disclaimer that is three pages long?
All the best,
Vladimir |
| HilaryN |
Posted - 09/27/2005 : 14:30:34
Very good point by Louise.
Also, (I mentioned this before, so sorry to repeat myself), on the World Talk radio program mentioned by 2scoops, Dr Sarno mentions a patient of his whose MRI showed quite bad deterioration in her back so he referred her to another doctor for possible surgery. But she was so keen on Sarno’s ideas that she got better, and the other doctor said that as she was better there was no point operating.
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| pault |
Posted - 09/27/2005 : 04:59:14
In most cases (like mine) if you question the %success rate or ask the negatives (read the disclaimer they have you sign befor surgery!)the surgeon will dismiss you. Paul. |
| vlada |
Posted - 09/26/2005 : 20:48:34
Very good points. Thank you. |
| 2scoops |
Posted - 09/26/2005 : 10:53:34
To be honest with you, I do think they consider pain-relief part of the success rate. When I went to my surgery appt with my ortho, in the past he said fusion had a 95% success rate. Boy, did that ease my conscious. THen at the appt. he said the 95%success rate ment that there was a 95% chance that my vertebrae would fuse together, without having another surgery. It had nothing to do with pain-relief. I would think that is pretty much all a neuro or ortho could offer, giving a success for fusing the vertebrae, cutting off part of the vertebrae, or part of a disc. There is no way that they can garuantee pain-relief, because most of the time they don't know what is causing the pain. |
| Louise |
Posted - 09/26/2005 : 10:31:04
A few years ago, I was diagnosed with a "pinched nerve" at L4/L5 in my back, and my neurosurgeon recommended a relatively simple surgery - a lumbar laminectomy, which he said had a 90% success rate. I had the surgery (this was before I'd found out about TMS), and felt great for about 9 months - until I returned to working full-time at a new job. 18 months after my surgery, I was in misery, and my doctor (the same one), next prescribed a spinal fusion. That same day, a clerk in a store told me about "Healing Back Pain", and my faith in conventional medicine went down the drain. Needless to say, I didn't have the spinal fusion, or any more surgery.
My advice is to beware of anything that's labeled "95% certainty of success". Go back and ask your doctor what constitutes 95% success, and does that success mean that 95% of his patients are pain-free a year, 2 years, or 5 years after surgery? I'm sure that seeing as how I had a significant reduction in pain after my surgery, I'm also considered to be part of my doctor's 90% success rate. The question is how long does it last? Strangely enough, when I went back to my chiropractor about a year after my surgery, when the pain returned, she told me that she'd had many patients whose back surgery success lasted about a year. This is evidence to me that surgery provides a placebo cure - a very potent one for many, but still a placebo. The only long-lasting pain reduction that I've experienced is through TMS treatment. |
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