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| marytabby |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 09:43:46
I read a lot on here about TMS related dizziness. I wouldn't go so far as to say I am dizzy, but I have mild lightheadedness, worse when standing/walking but it's not enough that I have to take a seat. I just get feeling lightheaded. Any thoughts from those of you who have dizziness? Is this similar to what most have or maybe not?
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| Stryder |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 13:27:09
Hi Maryalma8,
I had a bout of lightheadedness when I was at a job that I loved (that also had a lot of stress). My back pain had cleared up but I was also hving a bad time with TMJ (classic TMS moving around). I used to experience the light headedness after climbing long flights of stairs or when the [very fast] elevator would come to a stop going up to my floor.
I've only experienced this rarely since then, but also too now I'm Sarno-aware.
Take care, -Stryder |
| Carol |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 10:46:43
I am a TMS person who has totally defeated dizziness and vertigo. My own experience was a combination of light-headnesses, outright vertigo, and sometimes a feeling of fogginess. I had a complete checkup, incliding an MRI, with no reason found. I decided on my own that the condition was related to a stressful situation at work, so I started to just ignore it and get on with my life. I had to make a couple adjustments, as we are hikers and climbers and getting dizzy on a mountain is pretty dangerous. I stayed away from cliffs or steep slopes where a fall might be fatal, and never climbed without a walking stick. I also took meclizine whenever I felt light headed. There were some accomodations I made, but the most important thing was that I recognized what it was, and acted accordingly. Eventually my brain got the message and it went away. I had not heard of TMS then but I did know that I tended to have stress related symptoms for my whole life.
I do also get light headed when I stand up too quickly, but that is a totally different sensation and results from a drop in blood pressure when position is changed rapidly. It feels completely different from the TMS dizzies.
Please do have a complete physical to rule out any physical reason for the symptom before you treat it as TMS, but once you are given a clean bill of health just ignore the symptom and go on about your business once you have made an attempt to identify the source of your stress.
Carol |
| johnnyg |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 10:44:46
Laura--thanks, that really was rhetorical bantor, I should have mentioned it in the post. I do get the point, but I think it's sad that people (myslelf included) latch on to something for continued validation. I don't pretend to know your situatiom, but I'd be willing to bet that it worked out for the best. I could be wrong. |
| Laura |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 10:31:24
Johnny,
Actually, no it's not the "only reason women think they exist." I was merely explaining that for some women (myself included) there comes a certain sadness when you realize that chapter of your life is over. I have two daughters and I wanted a third child and my husband did not. Therefore, when I realized that my childbearing years were finished I was sad and I know for many other women they experience this as well. In fact, some continue to have babies over and over to prolong the inevitable. Since you are not a female, I guess you really cannot understand this. I think you missed the point.
Mary, whether you have kids or not probably isn't the issue here. I was simply sharing what I had gone through when I thought I had mal de debarquement syndrome. (Later, Dr. Schechter confirmed that I did indeed have TMS and not MDD) The thing I was looking for was more your age, since the dizziness did tend to occur in women going through menopausal and premenopausal symptoms. However, keep in mind that I am in my 40's and was experiencing this problem worse until I started reading Dr. Sarno's books and doing the work. Thus, I think that even if the doctors tell you that dizziness or lightheadedness can be a symptom from hormones, clearly there is a psychological component. My symptoms are practically gone. Good luck.
Laura
P.S. I tried "vitamin" supplments including B complex, ginger root, and a host of other such treatments. Nothing worked, until I started doing the TMS work. After you have been checked out by doctors (and most likely they find nothing wrong), then you can apply the TMS work as well.
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| johnnyg |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 08:51:29
Shouldn't the end of "baby making" days bring relief? I mean really, how many do you expect to have and is that the only reason women think they exist (I know not all women think that, but it's sad if many do). Low iron can also cause dizziness, especially in women, try a multivitamin and mineral supplement, or add iron to see if that is it. |
| marytabby |
Posted - 07/08/2005 : 02:50:39
Laura, I am 39 and do not have children (by choice, so I'm not bummed out about that). Thanks for your reply. |
| Laura |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 18:18:46
Mary,
You're talking to the queen of dizziness problems here. I've had problems with this since a little over three years ago. It happened to me after a trip (read my old posts - it takes to long to go into). Basically, I thought I had something called Mal de Debarquement syndrome or "floating woman's syndrome" as some have called it. Then, I found out more about TMS and mysteriously I improved.
First of all, how old are you (if you don't mind me asking)? Apparently, dizziness of off balance (lightheadedness) seems common in women who are in perimenopause and menopause. Most of the people who had MDD were women and they were mostly in their 40's. Now, after applying the TMS strategy and finding my symptoms lessened, I'm wondering if it's coicidental. Think about it - women in their 40's whose children are reaching the age where they may be going off to college, women feeling like their baby making days are over and they are "washed up" as women. That's just my theory. It started happening to me at a time where I thought I had breast cancer and at a time where I realized I was done having children. That was tough for me. The dizziness was a good distraction.
I must say that I have had a stomach thing for the past two and a half weeks and I've been SO focused on that, the dizziness has been pretty much nonexistent (with the exception of a few times where I felt it).
If it continues, have it checked out. This can include running all sorts of fun tests that make you dizzier. Usually, nothing is found (that's what happened to pretty much all the people with MDD, which I think is really TMS) and then you have to start thinking psychologically.
Good luck and feel free to e-mail me. By the way, Dizzy Dave suffered problems almost all his life. Since finding this forum and "doing the work," he has been symptom free for months. I spoke to him a couple weeks ago and he's still doing great.
Laura
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| molomaf |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 17:55:35
Mary,
I get "lightheaded" when I'm tired. It starts like a quick almost falling out of my chair feeling and then about 5-10 minutes later, I start yawning. Weird!
Michele |
| marytabby |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 17:07:11
Also, Sarno mentions in his MBP book that hypoglycemia can be a TMS equivalent. Hypoglycemia can cause light headedness, etc.
I have a glucose meter so I am going to keep an eye on my blood sugar. Meanwhile I would love to hear from others here on lightheaded feelings. |
| marytabby |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 16:45:41
Basicly, I know all about TMS concepts. But yes, Art you are right. This is a new symptom this week and I'm just asking if those out there that have dizziness start off like me, with lightheadedness, somewhat feeling off-kilter but not necessarily making me run to a doctor to get tests done. More I'm curious since SO MANY people on here have dizziness. So Art, thanks for clarifying for me. |
| art |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 16:15:15
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You have you stop concentrating on physical symptoms (assuming your medical tests come up negative) as that is a strategy of the brain to keep you occupied on the physical. Doing the mental work is what will help in your recovery. As long as you conentrate on the physical then the brain is winning. The principles I outlined can be applied to any situation
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You can't expect a person to simply ignore new physical symptoms on the assumoption that everything is TMS. Everything is not TMS, which is what you parenthetically concede when you talk about tests needing to be negative.
Mary has a new symptom which is mildly concerning to her. Not sure it's helpful to simply suggest she just jumpt to TMS self-treatment before she's had a chance to explore it.
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| n/a |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 12:36:33
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Originally posted by Maryalma8
Peter,
I read the link but I'm not sure I follow about the lightheadedness. Sorry, maybe I'm missing something.
You have you try concentrating on the possible emotional roots of your symptoms and not only the physical assuming your medical tests come up negative, as you should always see a doctor with any new symptom) as that is a strategy of the brain to keep you occupied on the physical. Doing the mental work is what will help in your recovery. As long as you conentrate on the physical then the brain is winning. The principles I outlined can be applied to any situation
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| marytabby |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 12:14:54
Art,
I don't think I have postural hypotension, because my blood pressure is checked often. It's more of a new thing that I notice as the day wears on. Just trying to see if it sounds like this dizziness that many on here complain about having as a TMS equavilent.
It's a bizarre new thing. Not alarming, just kind of noticing it as the day goes on. |
| art |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 12:01:58
I sometimes get light headed...In my case its postural hypotension, a sudden lowering of blood pressure (mine tends to be on the low side anyway)mostly when I stand up after sitting for a while...
Not sure if that's what you have...In my case I'm sure it's not TMS |
| marytabby |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 10:45:42
Peter,
I read the link but I'm not sure I follow about the lightheadedness. Sorry, maybe I'm missing something. |
| n/a |
Posted - 07/07/2005 : 10:07:19
do the mental work as suggested here:
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1159 |
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