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| Suz |
Posted - 06/27/2005 : 20:07:58
I really need some support right now. I am not sure if I can cope with this pain tonight - it hasn't been this bad in about a year. My entire right side down the sciatic nerve has gone into spasm. I am unable to move other than dragging myself along by using the furniture. I know I musn't focus on the physical but when the muscles have gone into spasm - it is actually impossible to ignore this. I am so so incredibly angry that I am in this pain. I feel like a major failure that it is back again. This may be part of my problem. I have such a need to be perfect. I don't feel any support in my life at all - not from my fiance who I feel I have to be strong for and support. Sometimes, I desperately want someone to lean on. I am not sure if I can cope with all the responsibilities in my life. I have to plan the wedding, the honeymoon, where i am going to live. My fiance does not have a secure job so I am the provider. I want to have a child but don't know how to do it as there is noone but me to earn the money. I have no parent to turn to. My father did not come to my engagement party as he said he was busy. My mother doesn't even approve of my fiance as he is from the "wrong" background and isn't good looking enough. I have finally understood through therapy that I have had to be the parent my whole life. I am very very tired of it all. I am coming to terms with the fact that I cannot rely on either parent for any kind of emotional help. For some reason, it feels like I am mourning the death of someone. I realize that my parents can never give me love and support with no conditions or judgements. I feel very very sad about this.
I think that my pain might be coming from all of these places. I have such a terrible feeling of loneliness right now. Forgive me for ranting on - I thought it might be therapeutic to write this although I probably sound mad! |
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| Albert |
Posted - 06/29/2005 : 17:06:38
Suz:
Having to be your own parent doesn't have to be a bad thing. Perhaps it provides your soul with a unique way to grow. Think long term.
Or perhaps you should follow jjgold's advice and tell your fiance that you'll only marry him if he promisses to give you massages 24/7 while you hang in a traction device all day and all night. Yeah, that's a solution. |
| Baseball65 |
Posted - 06/29/2005 : 16:47:20
quote:
only a large ego cannot open their mind to a different way of doing things
-Suz
.....I beg to differ.I have a HUGE ego and recovered using Sarno!
Pain has a way of humbling all of us.
Baseball65 |
| Suz |
Posted - 06/29/2005 : 11:34:36
Mala,
So funny you mentioned that - I was wondering the same thing about my mind. My pain has gone now totally after seeing her yesterday and my constipation has gone as well. I wonder if I am becoming dependant - tricky to know really. How does one wean
JJGold - I tried all those options over the last 12 years and unfortunately none of them gave me lasting relief. That is why Sarno's work has been so wonderful for me. This week has 100% prooved to me that my pain comes from stress and the brain. You might want to try this method yourself if you are suffering from any pain. I always find that it has been so helpful to me in life to have an open mind - only a large ego cannot open their mind to a different way of doing things |
| mala |
Posted - 06/29/2005 : 07:00:04
Well thank you so much for that jjgold. I was wondering when another one of your posts was going to turn up like a bad penny. It didn't take long did it? I just don't get it. Why do you even bother coming to place where you know you are not welcome? Why are you so frustrated that you feel you have to negate everything on this forum?
You know, I've had most if not all of those treatments on that list of yours. I spent so much money that I could have paid a 30% deposit on a flat in a place like HK not to mention all the time and emotional trauma when each one of those so called treatments didn't work. Other people on this forum have had many of the the same experiences. I hate to admit it but most of here came here as a last resort when all else failed. And this worked! Instead of fighting us here why don't you add this to your list and spread the message that this is a very viable and real option for many. You could be helping others instaed of using your time being so negative .
Good Luck & Good Health
Mala |
| altherunner |
Posted - 06/28/2005 : 20:59:03
I used to get bad sciatic pain in the morning when I was close to being over my neck/back pain. It was excruciating. I would drag myself to the gym,get on the treadmill, and try a walk, and then if possible, a jog. I think the increased circulation relieved the pain,
and also proved to myself that it was not structural. Once, I took a
few painkillers to be able to move, and forced myself to go. This may not seem feasible at this time, but maybe for the future.
Good wishes! I also tried all the conventional treatments previously
mentioned, with no success, basically a waste of thousands of dollars.(at least it was canadian .80 dollars) |
| jjgold |
Posted - 06/28/2005 : 20:46:14
Suz here are some treatments to try that have help others best of luck !
Other Treatments
Traction
Traction treatments use systems of weights, cables, and pulleys in an attempt to reduce pressure on the disks and the joints between the vertebrae. It was thought that such traction as well as stretching muscles and connective tissues of the back might have a beneficial effect.
Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulation (TENS)
TENS is a technique in which electrode patches are placed on the skin and low-voltage electric currents are passed between them.
Massage
Massage can warm and relax back muscles and improve blood flow.
Biofeedback
Biofeedback has been used to measure the electrical activity of back muscles and to train patients to reduce muscle activity and tension.
Acupuncture
In traditional Chinese acupuncture, needles are inserted into specific areas of the body. The needles are then rotated to produce a mildly irritating stimulus.
Injections Into the Back
A number of techniques of injecting various substances at various points of the back have been used in attempts to reduce low back pain. For acute back pain, none of these techniques have been shown to consistently yield better results than doing nothing. Injection techniques are invasive and may have significant associated risks, such as placement of the needle where it may do damage. Some research suggests that certain injections in the back may be useful under special conditions. Those conditions include cases in which disease processes exist in addition to back pain and the requirement that the injections be carried out by physicians who are expert in the technique.
Ultrasound
The purpose of ultrasound treatment is to warm the deep layers of soft tissues in the back. Ultrasound does this by means of high-intensity sound waves that are outside hearing range.
Percutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulation (PENS)
PENS is a recently developed pain-relieving treatment that combines the advantages of TENS with those of electroacupuncture. Small needles similar to those used in acupuncture are placed in the soft tissue or muscles of the lower part of the back at points that correspond to the origin of the pain. The needles are then used to deliver low-intensity electrical impulses.
In a clinical trial, PENS was compared with three other treatments: TENS, exercise, and PENS without electrical pulses. All four treatments were administered for a period of 30 minutes 3 times per week for 3 weeks. According to 91% of the patients, PENS was the most effective of the four treatments in decreasing low back pain. PENS was also better at improving physical activity, quality of sleep, and sense of well-being, with greater improvement of functioning after treatment.
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| mala |
Posted - 06/28/2005 : 19:54:46
Suz,
Good to know that you are feeling better and yes what a strange condition this really is. I was just wondering about something you mentioned in your post. You said you thought you could manage by yourself without help from the therapist. There is no doubt that therapy is very important to one's recovery and that is why sarno recommends it so stromgly. Do you think however, that the mind being as devious as it is wants you to maintain a dependency on therapy.
You know how sometimes the pain gets worse when you first start getting more active becoz the mind wants you to stay focussed on the pain? Well, do you think the mind wants to trick you in the same way to stay focussed on therapy so that you are never truly free?
The thing is as you progress in this fight against tns you get better and better at being able to recognise better when the mind is trying to throw wobblers at you to distract you from living 'a normal life'.
What do you think?
Good Luck & Good Health
Mala |
| ssjs |
Posted - 06/28/2005 : 18:05:15
I am really happy for you. What an accomplishment!
Sandy |
| Fredarm57 |
Posted - 06/28/2005 : 17:36:12
Congratulations Suz, you have had a breakthough! Fred
Fred |
| alanc |
Posted - 06/28/2005 : 15:12:26
Suz - that is great to hear. When I first read your post I thought of Dominik's post - it's a classic. Excuss my language but you have to get pissed off at yourself (mind), take control and work through it. I do, every day five weeks now and I can't believe the relief from pain. You certainly do have a big load to carry, but you can do it cause you are aware of the load. Keep on truckin' and don't give up. Your mind will give up before you do. |
| Suz |
Posted - 06/28/2005 : 14:57:50
Thank you all of you for your wonderful words of kindness and support. Last night, I actually scrolled through on this board and I found Domenick's success story post - for some reason it really helped. I realized that i was really letting the pain get to me and was feeling like a victim again. I realized that I have control over this and so I got really really angry. My pain was about 60 % better within 10 minutes - amazing! I was able to make it to brush my teeth and go to bed. I actually made it through a fairly good night sleep and woke with virtually no sciatic pain. I went to see my psychologist today. I feel like a different person this afternoon. I am going to start reading the treatment chapter again every day and the daily reminders and journal if I have time.
I realize how much I appreciate this board and really how strange this condition is. |
| Fredarm57 |
Posted - 06/28/2005 : 07:15:59
Sometimes all you can do is ride out a pain episode. I saw Dr. Sarno in the early 1990's. During one of his lectures, someone asked him what to do when you had a severe pain attack. He replied, with a twinkle in his eye, "go to bed with a good book and a bottle of wine". Like Sandy says--don't expect it to last. Also, you might ask your doctor for a prescription for Klonopin or one of its equivalents. It will help to relax you. It's not a long-term solution--over time it's addicting--but it can be very useful to help with a severe pain attack in the short term. I had an episode in February, took some for a couple of weeks, and along with some therapy and "doing the work", I am now fine. |
| ssjs |
Posted - 06/28/2005 : 06:24:49
Suz,
When I woke up today, I thought about you. I hope you are feeling better. Certainly there are things you need to deal with that are unbearable to you. Just as your pain is unbearable.
I too was my own parent...and that is one of the hardest things of all to go through.
Mala is right. See a therapist.
I know things will be ok.
Sandy
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| mala |
Posted - 06/28/2005 : 04:16:04
Hi Suz,
Sorry to hear that you are going thru a rough patch. I remember Sarno listing 50 most stressful things in one's life in HBP and any of these could be the reason for the pain. Well you definitely have reason for being stressed out and therefore no surprise that you are having this awful pain.
First things first. Make yourself as comfortable as possible. Is there any position that you can sit/ lie in that will ease the pain. Is there also something you could take for it so that at least you don't focus too much on it. That way maybe you could mull over what is bothering you.
You say that you are angry. Maybe your anger is manifesting itself as pain in your body. Do you think you need to address this anger directly at someone? In your posts you say that you don't feel you get support from either your parents or your fiance and that is why you are angry. Then you also mentioned that you had this pain 12 years ago when you first got engaged. There seems to be strong link here.
Fred is right. There are many good marriages out there. It works best when you have complete faith and trust in your partner and know that he or she will be there for you and support you no matter what. It is important to be able to communicate at all levels. The fact that you feel you can't lean on your partner may be a source of rage that needs investigating.
So make an appt. with that therapist asap. In the meantime take care.
Good Luck & Good Health
Mala |
| ssjs |
Posted - 06/27/2005 : 21:16:58
When my pain was that bad, I called up Dr. Sarno and he told me that I shouldn't assume I would be hurting the next day. I went to bed fully expecting to be fine...and i was.
Of course there is a lot more to this story, but this is the most important part.
I Know you will be fine!
You can do it!
Sandy |
| n/a |
Posted - 06/27/2005 : 20:30:12
I just so wish there were words to say that would ease your pain. It certainly sounds like you have a lot on your plate and this is increasing your pain, and you recognize this. Regardless of how painful it gets - and all of us on this forum know about these horrendous attacks - continue to link the pain you are experiencing with the inner turmoil you are going through and see it for what it really is - a distraction to keep you thinking about your physical symptoms. I think you really need to have a heart-to-heart with your fiance also as this is too much for you right now. Tell him honestly how you feel- that too much is being placed upon you right now and that you are not up to it. Your health and personal well-being are more important than anything.
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