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| ssjs |
Posted - 06/27/2005 : 05:56:08
OK, so I am a big talker about how Sarno has helped me get rid of pain 100%...but one big issue remains.
FOOD! I eat and eat and eat! My weight goes up and down 20-30 lbs at a time. Right now i walk alot so I am in pretty good shape, kind of, but I just cannot stop eating. And I get fatter every day.
I KNOW it is the same kind of tms thing. And I am in therapy...we have been targeting the food stuff for a month or so now...and it helped right away with the pain issues...but this food thing is so tenacious! It sticks and sticks and sticks, like a plate of ribs!!!
I will talk to myself about distraction...AS I AM HAVING MY THIRD DONUT...and remind myself that I am trying to distract myself...and then I will notice some cookies I missed before...and on and on!
Any suggestions?
Sandy |
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| ssjs |
Posted - 06/27/2005 : 08:40:54
thats what I am afraid of...thinking it is physical and cutting out certain foods to correct the problem....since I like those foods! There should be no reason that I cannot partake sometimes!....but since I have been so successful with pain, I start to falter when it is the food issue.
I guess I must NOT falter!
I would consider what I have an eating disorder. I put all of that anger that I repress inside of me into my food issues.
I am happy that I have gotten it contained into one symptom, but I will have to deal with it...without allowing another symptom to crop up...and do not worry Rob, I will not take up smoking!
The smoking is tms, but the heart attacks and lung cancer is a bit beyond that! Too bad I can't seem to see food as such a dangerous issue yet!
thanks to everyone that responded! Any other ideas would be greatly appreciated...you are a really nice bunch of people!
And as an aside...it is true that in other forumns, there is generally alot of complaining and crying...Oh woe is me...There is a place for that...and alot of people need that support...but what I like about here is that we are trying to find positive ways to get better...ways to improve our lives in general.
We may sometimes say "woe is me" but then we say "what next? How can I change this" I love it!
Sandy |
| robbokop |
Posted - 06/27/2005 : 08:23:56
Food issues are complicated, and I'm not able to offer professional advice. However, my Sister had an eating disorder for five years and so I have experienced living with someone with food issues. In her situation, food was the one thing she could control in her life, in all the other aspects she felt totally helpless. If TMS works as a distraction, I see know reason why this shouldn't be related. I think the key is to think in terms of 'cause and effect'. People with TMS who try to treat their symptoms will not be successful, but the ones who tackle the emotional cause will - that is the important part. Likewise, if you are trying to get to the bottom of your food issue I would say altering your diet to cut out carbs/white flour or whatever will not get rid of the overall problem - that's not the real issue. That is like having physical therapy for TMS back pain - it is a new distraction that will keep you from looking into your life and finding the deeper psychological issues. I would say continuing to work with your therapist about this on a psychological level would be the best plan of action to tackle the obsessive pattern. Don't take up smoking instead!
Rob |
| Carolyn |
Posted - 06/27/2005 : 08:00:16
I definitely find compulsive eating of sweets to be a TMS equivalent and have posted about it here before. For me, that type of eating is triggered by that same restless, unsettled feeling that I associate with TMS and whatever is acting up in my subconscious. I eat mindlessly in an attempt to just be doing something and avoid that feeling and I think the sugar 'high' you get numbs your brain and that must be the relief my TMS is looking for.
If you can do 2 weeks without the junk, the cravings do go away but they dome right back the first time you fall off the wagon. And a word of warning, whenever I go cold turkey on the sweets because I remember they are TMS, another TMS symptom always pops up. Sometimes I go into a mode where I feel like well, I'd ratehr be fat than in pain. But I do think eating all that junk and being unhealthy in general just makes all of the other symptoms worse so it's really not a good trade off.
Carolyn |
| ssjs |
Posted - 06/27/2005 : 07:37:58
I think both of you are right.
I tend to think of everything as tms related, and I am sure overeating is too, but I was doing great following the weight watchers points, until i started eating their cakes and other sweet things...and then I went crazy...giddy with hunger!
I do not find breads and pasta a problem, even if they are with white flower...but sugar sets me up.
Or does tms set me up to buy sweets and then consume with no stop.
What really comes first?
I will try the white flower thing...but maybe i am just ready to stop.
I just do not want to be a slave to my eating habits.
Sandy |
| n/a |
Posted - 06/27/2005 : 07:04:49
I think eating an over abundance of food can also act as a distraction from emotional issues going on inside a person. One may be sad, mad, anxious, worried, etc and then cover these feelings up with over-eating. Try to see the link between your emotions and the urge to over-eat. In other words, when you have the urge to over-eat, think about how this urge is distracting you from emotional issues deep in your unconscious. Create links. In my humble opinion, TMS thinking can be applied to a lot of areas other than pain. |
| molomaf |
Posted - 06/27/2005 : 06:45:35
Sandy,
I have found that if you cut out simple sugars and non complex carbohydrates(white flour, white rice, etc), your cravings will stop in about 1 week. You will be able to resist eating the addictive foods(doughnuts). It doesn't seem like it would work but it does. However, if you eat just a little of the "forbidden" foods, it starts the cravings again.
Michele |
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