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Allan |
Posted - 05/25/2005 : 07:45:42 “AN ACHING AGASSI IS FORCED TO BID ADIEU
A portion of an article in today’s newspaper:
“Though he held that two-sets-to-one lead, Agassi was thereafter lifeless, losing 12 of the last 13 games, struck down by an inflamed sciatic nerve that affected his mobility.”
Evidently our Mets pitcher is not the only one in pro sports with TMS pain.
May I suggest that, based upon several postings on the forum, most, if not all, sciatic pain is TMS pain.
Allan
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Dave |
Posted - 05/27/2005 : 07:56:03 Matsui is definitely not a coincidence. It must be incredibly difficult for him. He is an embarrasment, not living up to his expectations. While fans in Japan applaud "big" Matsui across the river, "little" Matsui is only a shadow of the player he was in Japan. In a culture that places high importance on honor and pride, this must affect him more than he knows.
I feel bad for the guy ... fans boo him constantly, never giving him the opportunity to get comfortable here.
It's much easier to sit on the bench with pain than to go out on the field and face all those emotions. |
smth416 |
Posted - 05/26/2005 : 21:08:41 Speaking of TMS and Baseball how about the Mets Kaz Matsui. He played seven years in Japan, where the fans don't boo and the pressure is low, and never missed one game. He began 2004 with the Mets, and missed half of the year with assorted twinges and muscle pulls. Again this year Matsui is missing games with similar day-to-day injuries. He has never been "stucturally" damaged and it always seems to be a different area hurt. The injuries also seem to mount as he does worse and is scorned more and more by the fans. How can a man play seven years in the Japanese majors and be considered an "iron man", then come here and be a cupcake? This doesn't sound like a coincidence to me. -Al |
Allan |
Posted - 05/26/2005 : 16:57:06 Maryalma8
The cookout is still on for sometime in July if the rain lets up by then.
I have a list of those TMS'rs who have responded. Looks like a good group.
Allan. |
marytabby |
Posted - 05/26/2005 : 16:46:46 Allan, You are correct, I did write to you based on the Amazon review you gave Sarno's book. And you told me about this board. NOw how about that summer cookout? What's the plan? I can't wait! |
Allan |
Posted - 05/26/2005 : 08:27:24 hiffer
My wife says that if she hadn't seen it happen, she never would have believed it. All that horrible and agonizing pain for all those months, then whamo gone. Actually, not whamo, it took a few months, but the fact remains that it all went away and never came back.
Allan.
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hiffer |
Posted - 05/26/2005 : 08:19:18 Quote "I think that you were the one that dug my five year old customer review of Healing Back Pain out of amazon.com and sent me an email a few weeks ago."
Allan, that was me and you're still my personal 'poster boy' in regards to success stories---probably because we had the same diagnosis and symptoms. I still chuckle when I think of you correcting my terminology ( I don't ski, I cross country ski) and I tell what I know of your story to as many pain sufferers as I can. I hope to run into you at the W. club sometime---Joel
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Allan |
Posted - 05/25/2005 : 12:27:50 Maryalma8
I share your concern about spreading the word and a national support group with branches in every state.
I think that you were the one that dug my five year old customer review of Healing Back Pain out of amazon.com and sent me an email a few weeks ago.
As a result, I updated the review. I said that I would accept emails. It is about five a week. With some of my comments, I refer them all to the tmshelp.com forum. Now I watch their postings and I am delighted to observe their recovery process.
Meanwhile we have a major teaching hospital in Boston, the New England Baptist Hospital, with Dr. Martinez. He is heavily involved with the Dr. Sarno diagnosis and is spreading the word with his patients. Some on the forum, from among the crowd here in Massachusetts, have gone to see him.
Dr. Sarno’s book is leaping to the top of being a best seller in its category at Amazon. It was somewhere around 8,000 in 2001 and now it is around 500.
The point of all of this is that the message of Dr. Sarno is reaching more and more people. It may be becoming exponential. I think that the tmshelp.com forum is a major part of all of this.
However, I do wish that somehow we could get a national support group established.
Allan
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bhbauman |
Posted - 05/25/2005 : 11:47:53 I had the SAME thought when I saw Agassi on the news the other day.
Poor guy, I feel bad for him and wish that someone would SARNO him! |
Allan |
Posted - 05/25/2005 : 11:23:02 art.
Wow! What a great thought!
Allan. |
art |
Posted - 05/25/2005 : 09:59:53 I had the same thought when I saw the article on Agassi.
My second thought was that someday, somebody's gonna come along and make an awful lot of money off of TMS. Not to get too mercenary about the whole thing, but think about the millions of dollars that are at stake for an athlete, or a performer for that matter as Mary brings up, when they can no longer function due to what are frequently psychosomatic disorders.
But then again, maybe not. The principles of TMS are so simple, so readily accessible. Maybe what it will take will be one "name" athlete or performer to discover this stuff...Let's just say someone slipped Agassi a copy of Healing Back Pain and he went on to make some huge comeback. Imagine the reporters all crowded around asking to what he attributed this stunning turn-around.."Well you see there's this guy named Dr. Sarno...
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MikeC |
Posted - 05/25/2005 : 09:42:33 Mary,
While I would agree that TMS plays a significant part in people's lives, let's be careful not to think like the individuals who we criticize. While not everything is physical, neither it is all psychological. If it was, everyone would be cured be reading a book and we know that is not the case. In Abdul's case, it sounds like her case did respond to medication. Despite the fact that she had twelve surgeries, nothing seemed to help her until the medication that she is taking. Her results seem too dramatic for it just to be a coincidence. Granted, she probably does have a lot psychological overlay that she should deal with but let's not throw out all of medical science for the sake of trying to make everyone's issues as psychological.
Thanks,
Mike C |
marytabby |
Posted - 05/25/2005 : 08:43:08 What about Paula Abdul? All this stuff about sympathetic reflex disorder. Sounds a LOT like TMS from what I read about it. Funny, all the years of suffering with a "pain condition". Why so many people don't know more about TMS is a very peculiar thing to me. That's why I started that post a few weeks ago about why not starting a TMS support group, even though I realize now that it could turn out bad. I mean, doctors are just NOT aware of TMS as a cure or they dismiss it I guess. Even the docs in Beverly Hills are still prescribing all kinds of meds and bad placebos for pain disorders to Abdul, Chapelle, hundreds of starts. There's got to be a way for TMS to be more recognized so more people can get help. It's crazy that people should live like this. In this much pain for years, the way I have. It's too stupid that a simple process of acceptance of emotional causation is all it takes, and some work on the mind to get better, yet people don't know about TMS. They, like us, find out about it accidentally by surfing the web, or miraculously by some chance happenstance that they heard about Sarno via word of mouth. It's too obscure. TMS needs to get OUT in the public eye. People need to know about this condition. It's like this: Thomas Edison invents the lightbulb, and only the rich know about how to get access to them, and how to get electricity wired into their home to have light. But then as a few years go by, it's now affordable and easy to hook up, but because it's not in the newspaper and horse and buggy mail, no one is hearing about it, and they're all living in the dark by candlelight still, and this goes on for years and decades, and never becomes known that the average family can now afford to have light to read by and it's a cinch to hook up! Stupid. |
Dave |
Posted - 05/25/2005 : 07:52:36 It's gotta be tough for a superstar like Agassi to admit to himself that his storied career is coming to an end. It is really remarkable that he has been able to play at such a high level these past few years.
Well, if genetics has anything to do with it, his son should be a tennis superstar one day, if he doesn't succomb to TMS. Talk about high expectations
Another celebrity in the news lately: David Chapelle. Clearly he has succombed to the intense pressure of being a perfectionist and trying to live up to unrealistic expectations. Despite his TMS-prone personality, it seems he is actually able to come to terms with those feelings and avoid physical symptoms (even though the public considers his absence to indicate a psychological problem).
This is actually a good illustration of why TMS exists. Chapelle is scorned because he "cracked" under pressure and decided to take a break. But if instead his show was postponed due to a "herniated disc" injury, he would have the public's sympathies. |
marytabby |
Posted - 05/25/2005 : 07:50:47 When I saw that on the news I thought ah ha! TMS! |
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